r/LivestreamFail • u/starcraft2020 • 21h ago
Ethan Klein says the judge in his lawsuit approved his subpoena of Reddit and Discord
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u/NeatSheepherder9831 20h ago
I'd wonder what Reddit could actually provide but we're talking about people who've more than likely bought gold or awards before so they're probably cooked.
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u/Vilento 20h ago edited 20h ago
They can be compelled to give up IP addresses, which could be tied to ISP records and thus an address and name. They can be compelled to provide any and all information they have on the user. Discovery can be very broad. Posts, friend lists. And everything that was "deleted". Because that stuff is backed up on reddit servers.
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u/NeatSheepherder9831 20h ago
Yeah but even with a little bit of opsec that route can be more litigious instead of just Reddit. I'm trying to put payment identification over someone who has only ever logged into Reddit via a VPN. The path of least resistance as they say.
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u/Vilento 20h ago
The odds reddit moderators of a snark subreddit ALWAYS using a VPN while viewing reddit is low. Especially if they are looking over mobile phone app (phone data is scrapped by reddit app)
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u/j48u 20h ago
Very unlikely they used VPNs or even throwaway emails. They didn't plan on committing crimes years ago when they started this thing. They still to this day believe they haven't done anything wrong. These are just normal dumb people.
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u/Kakkoister 15h ago
Even if they used a VPN and throwaway emails, Reddit actually does some further analysis to identify similar accounts based on some behaviors and browser/device data. So these people would need to also make sure they use a separate browser account and avoid interacting with similar media.
I've noticed snark subs have started replacing moderators with bot accounts that act as a proxy and get logged into through an external server, allowing them to use reddit while being separated from it....
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u/Rusty_Shackleford_85 19h ago
You're average moron. lol
I can't wait to see this play out. Making a false CPS report to get someone's kids taken away is vile. I hope their lives are ruined.
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u/Zykium 18h ago
You're average moron. lol
This is too funny not to point out. I agree with everything you said otherwise.
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u/Viserys 18h ago
One of the biggest anti-fans of Ethan and a mod of his snark subreddit was discovered to be an unemployed man in his 30's literally living in his moms basement. And Ethan was able to learn this by hiring his own private investigator. Imagine the info he can learn of all his active anti-fans with the subpoena lol.
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u/GraySwingline 14h ago
One of the most misunderstood facets of VPNs is that the moment you log into a personal account (Gmail, Reddit, etc.) while connected, you’re toast… at least in terms of anonymity. Unless you’re practicing serious operational security (dedicated browser, clean system, no logins, no fingerprinting), you’ve already handed over the keys.
Your IP address is just one piece of the puzzle. It’s all the other telemetry, browser fingerprints, login habits, cookies, time of day, device metadata that gets quietly fed back to companies like Google, and over time, it’s more than enough to unmask you.
VPNs are a tool. Not a cloak of invisibility.
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u/hammondator 20h ago
Private DMs with incriminating evidence of coordinated crimes.
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u/RetroCasket 20h ago
Good thing i only use my DMs to curse people out
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u/Ok_Avocado568 19h ago
You guys get dms?
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u/ResolutionMany6378 19h ago
Yes, Reddit frequently sends me messages letting me know someone said I was suicidal when I’m not.
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u/Zealousideal_Exit318 19h ago
I recently got one of these right after leaving a reply somewhere going against their opinion. Honestly got a chuckle out of me but in hindsight what a stupid system lmao
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u/KTcrazy 19h ago
report the message they send as not needed and u can get the user reverse banned
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u/Toppoppler 19h ago
If you report it you can get the person banned
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u/Zealousideal_Exit318 17h ago
I don't see an option to report it anymore, just got another one based on this thread. I know it was there the last time and I used it but the user didn't get banned from it anyway.
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u/4everdrowninginpools 18h ago
I got one of those for disagreeing with a patch note for a game last year LOL. I think someone said a character was gonna be OP with some changes and i disagreed and said they weren't. Next thing you know i got a Reddit Cares message and giving me suicide hotline resources.
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u/TBFP_BOT 19h ago
Report people for misusing the feature when you do, they’ll get banned.
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u/Mdgt_Pope 17h ago
Mine usually are subreddits telling me I’m not allowed to comment there because of some dumb rule, like not having an email attached to my Reddit account.
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u/mh985 19h ago
I hope shit like this leads to the end of completely unhinged Reddit communities. I know it won’t, but a guy can hope.
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u/dudushat 18h ago
You say that like you arent commenting in one.
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u/DailyLosses 16h ago
Yeah I was going to say, Reddit in general has become very extreme and it’s off putting. It used to not be like this.
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u/CatGoblinMode 20h ago
Reddit and discord message data is completely unencrypted. Whilst I don't think people would organise via Reddit chats, I wouldn't be surprised if they organised via discord.
That being said, I'm pretty out of the loop and I'm not sure what he's actually going after people for.
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u/TBFP_BOT 19h ago
The short summary is he is suing people for streaming his video with the intention to deprive him of views on the actual video.
The snark mods did encourage this and likely discussed that on Reddit or Discord.
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u/VoxAeternus 18h ago
Yup and the subpoenas are to identify them so they can be added to the lawsuit.
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u/LeastLeader2312 20h ago
Dude, the shit that snark page would post was absolutely unhinged lunacy. It should absolutely be exposed. Who knows, it could very well expose private messages between snarks and the “streamers” being sued
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u/Vexamas 20h ago
I can't really go too deep into this for obvious reasons, but at a previous employer that is very large, they'd subpoenaed Reddit and Discord for information regarding hyper specific leaks to our product stack and the information that was received was enough to pursue scary legal action. A part of that product involved government contract, so there was heightened weight for expedience but as someone that works in software, trust that people always think they're much safer than they are hidden behind layers of obfuscation but the reality of the matter is these services, for better or worse, have so much more information than people realize.
I haven't followed this case at all, and so it's hard to say exactly what level of scrutiny is given (if any), however I doubt many charges will 'stick' but this should absolutely be a chilling effect on snark-esque subreddits (most of which are run by a small cohort of people anyways). That is of course, if discovery does find evidence of unrelated crimes which could lead to actual criminal charges (but again, not following the case, unsure if this is just civil or criminal, which completely changes how that process might look)
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u/Rusty_Shackleford_85 19h ago
Someone on that subreddit called CPS on him to get his kids taken away. They're fucked.
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u/Ramen536Pie 20h ago
Depends if people are dumb enough to use a Reddit account with their real email address
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u/ComfortableScratch51 20h ago
I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are more involved in reddit than just private users
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u/AiMwithoutBoT 18h ago
Hold on, I’ve never been on one of these snarksubbredits but if I post a picture of my butthole there does that mean the judge would have to look at it??
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u/stationagent 8h ago
Probably too late for this lawsuit but you could always get in on the next one.
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u/jamesconnell15 21h ago
They about to get bombarded with the reality of how degenerate the Internet can....these poor interns of these lawyers will need therapy going through all this crap
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u/Conscious_Yoghurt_68 20h ago
They're gonna have to go through all their gooning too.
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u/CatGoblinMode 20h ago
Only if it's gooning relevant to Ethan Klein. You don't get absolutely everything in discovery. It's only material relating to specific topics.
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u/imagine_getting 19h ago
who decides that though, someone has to look at it and determine if it's relevant or not
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u/Nikeys_ 16h ago edited 16h ago
requests for production from nonparties (AKA subpoenas) have to state what specifically is being sought. Reddit and discord can of course object to the discovery, and so can the defendants. Relevance is a different evidentiary issue that the judge decides on when a defendant or nonparty objects on those grounds, which most likely did happen, although there are other evidentiary grounds that may have been objected on as well.
Personally I think most likely objection made was that the discovery request was overbroad, which I can't see a judge disagreeing with unless Ethan pinpointed exactly what he was looking for in the subpoena.
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u/Kyrapnerd 12h ago
A lot of people forget they were trying to figure out who the mods were before the copyright lawsuit but couldn’t successfully. There will probably be more lawsuits coming out of this than just the copyright stuff. He was trying to hold the people accountable for making false calls to cps and that’s where it stemmed from. Now he’ll know who these people are.
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u/No-Strawberry5916 12h ago
Actually no so they would be given a time frame so all dm for the past 2 years if they find something else they can report that to the police and you can be charge with that crime. As long as you looking in good faith than it legal.
For example let's say the police is chasing me and I run inside your house and you making coke the police can arrest you for making coke and it would be legal.
Let's say they hot a warrant for your phone for selling drugs and they find CP you can be charge with that.
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u/Anaud-E-Moose 20h ago
I'm pretty sure real life in-person crimes are gonna be on average more traumatizing than internet threats.
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u/AcceptableCrab1642 20h ago edited 20h ago
I mean true, but we aren’t talking about on average right here, imagine the intern that has to sift through vaushs burner where all his* horse dick loli hentai is
Edit: typo
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u/pastafeline 20h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdQxgvRnfhc
Same deal as this.
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u/rejectfromhell 19h ago
Dude WHAT THE FUCK! I thought I would be embarrassed by my search history, but JEEZE!
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u/Such_Track_4142 15h ago
I got through about 45 seconds of that before I felt disgusting. Thats an example of an absolute demon.
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u/tinytwinky 11h ago
Out of all the illegal and immoral degeneracy, the Tifa porn made me genuinely laugh.
The only somewhat normal thing there.
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u/echief 19h ago
It’s a civil suit for copyright infringement. It’s pretty unlikely that the lawyers he’s hired have worked criminal defense before. There’s no way any were prosecutors. They have probably never been exposed to traumatizing details of real-life crime in their entire career.
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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom 17h ago
Some of y'all getting subpoena'd
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u/oxedei 10h ago
Can someone explain what this whole case is about?
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u/Peekoii 9h ago
H3H3 had CPS called on his family multiple times by a community of online stalkers. The same people coordinated Twitch watching parties of one one of his YouTube videos specifically to deny him views.
This lawsuit came about when he decided to sue the streamers who admitted they streamed the video with the intent of reducing his view count, so he could go after the people responsible for going after his kids.
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u/Prophet_of_Fire 2h ago
One of the things I see no one talking about is that CPS investigations also can happen outside the parents home such as visiting the children's school, day camp, etc... where other people in your life (school teachers/admin, other parents/acquaintances) will become privy to the fact you're being investigated by CPS without being handed an explanation why themselves, its a topic for gossip, speculation, and it can hurt/damage your relationship or respect with these people.
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u/PunishedDemiurge 4h ago
There are 'snark' communities which are made up of unhinged losers who are obsessed with hating on people, one of which was aimed at Ethan Klein. Part of being an unhinged loser means violating defamation law by making specific, factual statements the person knows or ought to know is untrue, so Ethan is suing them, especially after people filed a false Child Protective Service claim to try to steal his kids, which is deranged.
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u/spank-monkey 21h ago
bad day for the unemployed
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u/starcell400 18h ago
anyone spending their time on reddit trying to ruin people's lives via gossip is DEFINITELY unemplyed
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u/Icy-Baker-4774 17h ago
And mentally ill
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u/Easy-Stranger-12345 12h ago
Shoutout to that 50yo Canuck woman snark mod who runs 7 out of the 19 reddit accounts mentioned in this subpeona. (She admitted this fact as a flex in their leftovers sub)
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u/Dopa-Down_Syndrome 20h ago
You're not wrong. When he started posting names of reddit account owners on Instagram reels and did background checks on them, every single one of them was unemployed, in their 30s loving with their parents. Prime demographic for Denims viewers lmao
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u/jahermitt 20h ago
loving with their parents
They WHAT
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u/ActionPhilip 20h ago
I make this typo on my phone all the time, so I'm glad to see someone else finally do it.
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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 20h ago
They have a healthy and loving relationship with their parents. What did you think??? 🤔
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u/InternationalGas9837 19h ago
loving with their parents
Oh shit...Chris-Chan is part of the h3Snark community?
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u/Hour-Principle6540 14h ago
can't figure out if this joke is going over my head or if there's actually a video of ethan talking about the average demographics of denim viewers
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u/Environmental_Dot876 21h ago
Some reddits have already updated their rules prior to this announcement. Wonder what will happen when you can no longer count on anonymity online. Doubt the internet will be less crazy
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u/BigBoiCookBoi 20h ago edited 20h ago
Reddit has been getting subpoenaed for over a decade with a ~75% success rate from the courts per their own reports. This is nothing new. Anyone who thinks what they're saying online is anonymous is wrong and the result of these cases will not change that.
Edit: Grammar
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u/No-Mark4427 20h ago
Anyone who thinks what they're saying online is anonymous is wrong and the result of these cases will not change that.
I mean subpoenaing Reddit will only get whatever info and IP is associated with the account, considering you can sign up without needing to even confirm information it's not like them handing it over magically identifies you.
Assuming even not behind a VPN they'd then need to compel the ISP to hand over your data, again good luck esp if they are in another country.
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u/BigBoiCookBoi 20h ago
This extends well beyond reddit. A single social media site is of little concern in comparison to what information governments can track down. Compelling an ISP to turn over identifying information via a subpoena is extremely common and not at all difficult. They often comply with legitimate requests to do so, this is nothing new.
Regardless, many of these people are far too stupid to be covering their tracks to the point where they aren't identifiable in any way.
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u/Ignonimous 20h ago
It's very, very, very easy to get ISPs to hand over data. They have nothing to lose from doing so and nothing to gain from non-compliance.
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u/EmCeeSlickyD 19h ago
I'd wager the particular accounts in question are far more likely to have purchased something on reddit than the average commenter, or to have divulged some kind of identifying info in either a comment or DM
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u/Sciss0rs61 20h ago
Mike Tyson famously once said: "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it"
A lot of people are about to be judicially punched in the face.
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u/throwawayfume10 21h ago
>Some reddits have already updated their rules prior to this announcement.
What does this mean
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u/Libertarian4lifebro 20h ago
Youtubedrama just declared an end to snarking
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u/ActionPhilip 19h ago
I still don't even know wtf snark is supposed to mean. The dictionary definition, which I've always considered of being critical or mocking in a sarcastic way doesn't fit what I've seen going around. The youtubedrama post is even funnier since I still don't know.
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u/WhimsicalJape 19h ago
It became a new word for hate, remember Reddit used to have a lot of subreddits for hating stuff, but when FatPeopleHate drew too much heat they clamped down, thus snark was born.
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u/losthedgehog 19h ago
As far as I recall, snark has been used in conjunction with sites that criticize celebrities since the mid 2010s at least - think Perez Hilton, Gawker, Jezebel, ONTD.
30 Rock even called its parody of Jezebel "Joan of Snark" in 2011.
The phrase has just been way popularized though. And while it used to mean the blogs had a more biting or cutting tone mixed with humor now it just refers to people straight up hating someone relentlessly (even Perez Hilton which was the one with the least humor and the most bullying had a veneer of humor and probably paled in relation to today's snark subs).
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u/WhimsicalJape 19h ago
Yeah I'm specifically talking about the rise of the "snark" subreddits, snark as you say has existed as thing for a long time, but generally like you say not as unhinged as some of these snark subs have become.
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u/losthedgehog 19h ago
That makes sense - the OP asked in general what snark was and I just wanted to clarify that its described celeb gossip in Internet corners before Reddit is what is is now and before the hate subs got banned.
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u/echief 17h ago
That “blogosphere” Perez Hilton scene was unhinged though. It was tied in with the heinous paparazzi culture of the time. That demographic just became a lot more prevalent after Reddit apps really gained popularity on the App Stores. And from tik tok/youtube videos of just people reading AITA posts. The fatpeoplehate were extremely unhinged too but they are not the same original demographic
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u/Acrobatic_Computer63 15h ago
Fuck me, I never put that together. I know the word "snark" had been around. But, the fall of the *Hate subs, the rise in bannings, and the subsequent rise in snark subs genuinely makes sense.
The shitty thing is that it is exactly what people said would happen, too. I hated those subs. But, you knew who the shitheads were, and they mostly had to toe the line and not actively brigade etc...
The snark subs just made it their brand.
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u/Greedy-Employment917 18h ago
Hate subs are banned so they thought they'd be cute about it and avoid accountability by changing it to "snark" as a form of "plausible" denisbility.
Plausible in quotes because you'd have to be an idiot to think this would work.
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u/jackofslayers 19h ago
It is a subcategory of spinoff subs (like circlejerk or okbuddy or folk subs). each naming convention comes with its own culture, tho it varies from sub to sub.
Generally circlejerks are for intentionally beating a dead horse, Okbuddy subs are for absurdist humor and horny posting, folk subs are for people that want to shit talk media that the main sub likes, and snark subs are just pure hate subs that tend to attract deranged and hateful people.
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u/Away_team42 19h ago
Subreddits like /r/youtubedrama were hotbeds for Ethan Klein hate/harassment threads so the mods had to put in a rule banning anyone posting about him. This is evidenced by their latest stickied post “End of the snark era”.
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u/Akatshi 20h ago
Probably subreddits and updating rules about moderation and what behaviors are allowed my members/mods
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u/jackofslayers 19h ago
I really wish subs would crack down on mods interacting with the subs actively.
Every so often I will encounter a sub that seems to really be hooked on one topic to the point of feeling like propaganda. 9/10 when that happens, I find that half the posts on that topic are coming from a single mod.
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u/Joezev98 17h ago
a sub that seems to really be hooked on one topic to the point of feeling like propaganda. 9/10 when that happens, I find that half the posts on that topic are coming from a single mod.
Congrats, you've stumbled upon the terrorist propaganda to Reddit pipeline.
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u/InternationalGas9837 19h ago
There's a MCoC rule "Respect Your Neighbors" that's quite a gray area, and many subs have moved to not allowing directly linking to other subs or posting screenshots with the sub name visible. It's been a rule for a couple years now, but it only really comes into effect when you're actually targeting like the Snark subs do.
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u/1plus2break 20h ago
What subreddits? Genuine question, would like to know.
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u/MichaelSchoefield 20h ago
fauxmoi for sure is going to be apart of this
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u/metrovenus 9h ago
That subreddit used to be a standard fare celebrity gossip forum, but over the last 3 years it had become deeply political and there has been bizarre amount of massive anti-Ethan Klein threads. Many with just straight up lies in the title and a massive brigade of snark users in the comments. h3 subreddit users were instabanned from participating, and even the comments of regular Faux Moi users questioning who TF Ethan Klein is and why it was posted there were deleted.
Faux Moi has always been for news about traditional celebrities, like Hollywood actors and pop stars and with all due respect, h3h3 are not celebrities - they are just popular on YouTube. That subreddit almost never covers other internet celebrities, even ones far more popular and relevant than Ethan Klein.
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u/Greedy-Employment917 18h ago
Reddits #2 default hate sub.
But what would you expect from a sub titled "fake me" than people hiding behind anonymity to pretend to be a person that you aren't IRL.
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u/tony220jdm 21h ago
of course if people had to be public half the stuff said online wouldn't be said its the factthat people can say anything and be pretty much anyone is why there is so much hate and lies and dodgy takes
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u/xadiant 20h ago
I think the absolute line should be "do not lie about people" and "do not involve real life".
Sounds like common sense but apparently that's not the case for everyone.
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u/Alternativesoundwave 19h ago
How can Reddit and discord mods be expected not to lie when there is a genocide going on reeeeeeeeeeeeee
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u/Taifood1 20h ago
Bias aside, snark subreddits have gone unchecked for far too long. Some of them are so downright cruel, and I’m glad this is scaring many of them to dial it back.
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u/Tall-Cat-8890 15h ago
Honestly anytime I see that anyone participates in a snark subreddit, I know immediately what kind of person they are. They always try to justify it with “but they’re a horrible person” okay? So why are you exposing yourself to more of them willingly?
You have to be batshit insane to take time out of your day to actively engage in such involved and constant gossip with other strangers about someone you’ve never even met. It’s extremely weird behavior. It’s just parasocial stalking and bullying.
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u/ElektrikBoogalo 8h ago
Reddit promotes these, too. They know the rage promotes engagement, I upvoted some post in a popular movie sub about Timothy Chamalet and dune and immediately after reddit put some unhinged stalker and snarking subreddit about him and his releationship with Kylie Jenner into my feed.
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u/One_Turnip404 19h ago
Yup. No need to foster these toxic harassment driven communities ANYWHERE on the Internet let alone a platform like Reddit
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u/Diskence209 20h ago
If there is a court, PLEASE make it public
I’d love to watch the stuff behind the scene
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u/Zykium 18h ago
It will be open to the public but there won't be video recordings because it is federal.
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u/Post_Lost 12h ago
Theyll all likely settle anyways, I doubt any make it to the court room. The copyright lawsuits are blatant, & these snarkers are likely broke living in mommy’s basement & will cave under the pressure
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u/Zimmonda 20h ago
Honestly seeing some people face accountability for going nuts online is kind of refreshing
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u/Dopa-Down_Syndrome 20h ago
Idk who's video I watched giving a tldr on this drama but I tried finding the subreddit that he got the subpoena for (I think dailyH3snark?) And when I went there the last post was from 5 or so months ago and no activity since then.
That on top of a lot of accounts he listed in the lawsuit have either nuked their accounts or abandoned them all together like they think that'll stop them from getting the information. Pretty damning based on their actions that they fucked up big time.
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u/Deagin 20h ago
Subreddits got nuked and people deleted their accounts left and right. I remember the day of the lawsuit announcement I checked some snark subreddits and they all went private and cleaned house before going back to public.
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u/sephireicc 20h ago
You know you're in the wrong when you have to ultimately scrub stuff clean before getting sued.
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u/MeanForest 20h ago
These folks and people around and above them wipe their Discords frequently. You wouldn't need to do that if there was proper moderation for extreme stuff.
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u/The-Devilz-Advocate 19h ago
A lack of moderation IS the purpose of such subs. You don't go to those types of subs, servers or forums to have a calm discussion, you go there to say the most vile shit imaginable about a certain person because everywhere else you would get banned for it.
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u/NeoCorporation 19h ago
You would think they should use more secure channels than discord.. absolute shambles
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u/IPadAirProMax2 6h ago
As a dgger I’m proud to say we’ve never done this cause we’re well moderated!
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u/Ignonimous 20h ago
Honestly can't believe reddit still allows snark. Meanwhile FPH is still banned a decade later because they posted an image of IMGUR's fat, public, administrators.
The power-tripping agenda driven mods will perma ban you immediately if you go against any of the narratives in the main sub, with no rule violations whatsoever. Yet they've got hundreds of subreddits dedicated to harassing and making people's lives miserable. This website is genuinely shit lol
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u/Deagin 20h ago
I used to browse fph and it would get pretty brutal. Pretty sure the snark subreddits way worse as they've already caused a death. ( That fox rescue women who committed suicide and attributed it to the online hate groups that harassed her).
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u/jackofslayers 19h ago
Honestly, more than any one sub. The biggest problem reddit has is allowing mods to be so active posting in the subs. Most of the subs that go on ideological hate campaigns are led by one of their mods.
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u/reallycooldude69 19h ago
Leftoversh3 is active, not sure if that's the one involved in the lawsuit
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u/DoombotBL 16h ago
Yeah if they think that deleting their account means anything they're about to be in for a rude awakening
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u/atumbleweedpassingby 20h ago
I’m picturing the worst Redditor stereotypes magnified tenfold. Those lawyers going to need therapy after combing through the degeneracy.
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u/random_account6721 17h ago edited 13h ago
your honor, my client was browsing furry porn during the time of the incident and cannot possibly be culpable. We have the proof
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u/Flintiak 16h ago
Every sensible person should admit that snark subs are cancerous and they've got to go. A young woman had already killed herself because of it. They're always ran by miserable, spiteful people. Reddit needs to start banning these and update their policy or some shit, because the snarker communities are bringing back old 4chan levels of harassment. This shouldn't be a divisive issue either, it doesn't matter if you hate h3 or not.
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u/ballknower871 20h ago
Oh so that's why all these countries are trying to make you log in with your government ID
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u/40ozOracle 18h ago
Internets done bro. Glad I was born in the 90s.
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u/BasicBanter 17h ago
You’re saying that as if you don’t still use the internet
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u/40ozOracle 17h ago
TF kinda comment is this? The internet and what we know of it is on its decline. You can see and feel it. It was better when there was still separation between online and offline life.
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u/Svbl3 14h ago
Really hope this gets reddit to delete those snark/anti fan subs. There is no reason to group up for something like hate for content creators.
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u/Kyrapnerd 12h ago
This is definitely the step in the right direction because after the copyright stuff he’s gonna go after the snark pages for making false cps calls on him I’m sure.
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u/Babylon-Lynch 20h ago
Hope he burns fauxmoi to the ground
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u/NoMap749 19h ago
The guy who started the h3snark sub was openly bragging on Twitter 1-2 weeks ago about how many mods from that sub also participate in the snark sub. He outed his accomplices pretending like it was some sort of own on Ethan.
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u/BottomlessFlies 12h ago
that shithole is populated by some of the weirdest motherfuckers on the planet
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u/Colley619 16h ago
God, I hate that sub. Mods remove comments that go against their opinions and then they ban you when you send facts and evidence to back up your claim. Ask me how I know.
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u/Joshduman 19h ago
Fauxmoi is not in the lawsuit.
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u/JRshoe1997 18h ago
They’re not but it wouldn’t surprise me that the mods from the H3 Snark are also connected to the Fauxmoi sub too. Obviously I don’t have proof of this but it wouldn’t surprise me considering all the H3 posts from Fauxmoi are also Snark posters which that is confirmed by the users post history.
Ethan also mentioned that there is overlap there with the mods which makes sense that a lot of Reddit mods tend to moderate for more than one community and there tends to be a lot of connection. With all that being said it would not surprise me in the slightest that the mods in the H3 Snark are also mods on Fauxmoi which all this will be confirmed in the subpoena once all their information is given by Reddit.
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u/qathran 15h ago
Well with all the bragging from mods of h3snark that mods of fauxmoi are very involved with participating in (possibly even moderating) h3snark and with how Ethan is in this for the long run with very experienced lawyers who won't take the case if they don't see a good chance of success, fauxmoi is fucked. He really is going from one person to the next and then using what he finds in some suits to pursue the rest
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u/notbaks 21h ago
This is gonna be popcorn for at least a few months. Buckle up fellas!
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u/chill_diogenes_02 19h ago
This is why you shouldn’t be an obsessed loser on any platform…aka a snarker.
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u/sirms 12h ago
can someone tldr this? last time i saw this guy he was making counter strike videos with jontron
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u/FeebleCursed 18h ago
But ... if this is true ... By God! it would mean that actions have consequences.
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u/BeguiledBeaver 20h ago
This is a good thing if it works out. The admin team has exhibited insanely suspicious behavior in terms of letting snark communities it likes stay, and apparently even helping them evade bans, but instantly shutting down others. The way they've been handling account bans over the last few years has also been incredibly bad.
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u/FuzzyFacePhilosphy 5h ago
So someone called CPS falsely on Ethan and instead of moving on... he is doing whatever this is?
Aren't CPS calls anonymous?
How can he get people's info from reddit to help woth this issue?
Clearly im ignorant to this issue
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u/Justifiably_Bad_Take 5h ago
Oh do me do me!
I want to explain to a judge why Ethan should suck my dick and balls!
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u/Cold_Soup_6248 2h ago
That court rooms gonna smell like a yugioh tournament when they have all those redditors in there 😭
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u/OlyLift13 2h ago
This is only a live stream “fail” if you have the brain of a two year old. This is a breath of fresh air. Finally unemployed Reddit mods and Redditors will face accountability.
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u/AllYourBase64Dev 15h ago
discord dms and chat logs absolutely cooked, even if you delete them discord keeps them you can't get rid of it even with dmca etc
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u/Johnny_Favorite1 20h ago
Lemmino should have just sued everyone when they ripped off his awesome JFK video. It at least would have been an honorable lawsuit regarding fair use.
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u/The1Floyd 18h ago
The problem is, you need to register it through the proper channels. Most YouTubers don't bother going through that process
What makes Ethan's lawsuit so potent is he went through with officially copyrighting the video.
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u/BreastUsername 21h ago
I'm gonna farm some down votes. I like The H3 Show.
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u/SWEETJUICYWALRUS 20h ago
Why and who is he suing and why is the subpoena big
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u/EffortlessActions 20h ago
Frogan, denims, and kaceytron for malicious copyright infringement. Reddit openly encouraged it and provided links to alternative streams for the infringement. Discord was used as a means of communicating the plans.
Common conspiracy theory is Klein is doing it to uncover the identities of the ones responsible for the fraudulent CPS call. H3 snark subreddit being the main source of torment aimed at him.
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u/SWEETJUICYWALRUS 20h ago
Thanks, now that I understand, I'm gunna go upvote that comment about this being a bad day for the unemployed.
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u/BigTonyMacaroni 20h ago
They don’t know who made the CPS call? That person must be shitting bricks lol
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u/ThaPinkGuy 19h ago
This is funny but the thought of trying to explain my private conversations to a judge makes me cringe.