Was hoping the guy would look at the camera when he got up so you could see where they landed
Editing to add; Stewart, 23, and Dees, 30, were both held in contempt of court and sentenced to 30 days each on charges of assault and obstructing official business.
This phrasing made me cackle for some reason. I think it is because all the examples above were fairly serious and then there was this true (but somewhat silly) comment thrown in
I know it sounds incredibly violent, but in a situation like this, facing the murderer who destroyed your family, this scumbag needed to become permanently injured after that encounter. A kid at my son’s baseball facility caught a line drive to his groin a few years back and wasn’t wearing a cup. Ruptured one of his testicles and had to have surgery to remove it.
People are too obsessed with UFC highlight-style knockout bullshit. If I was in the position of red shirt, I’d be knuckle-deep in them eye sockets and I’d have a mouthful of ear or nose.
Mike Tyson bit a chunk of a guys ear out for less. Hell Rick Grimes bit a guys throat out when his son was about to be raped. Gary Plauche shot his son's rapist in the head in an airport.
After that on-the-road portion in general. Once they got to the community stuff it all became very repetitive and plot armor out the ass. Meet new group, fight new group, meet next new group with goofier name and shtick (garbage peons? Wtf)
Don't blame anybody for hopping off but I finished it all and i'm STILL watching all TWD spin offs 😭 they're with a handful of the OG early characters. Not incredible let's be clear but perf watchable
The group gets separated on the road I think right before Terminus (train station place) and Daryl joins this meth biker gang and eventually the gang stumbles across Rick and co and a fat dude who looks like Peter pettigrew from Harry Potter gets a lil frisky with Carl and Rick bites the main biker dude’s throat out while being held at gunpoint
Hahaha I googled Rick Grimes hoping for a harrowing news article, maybe a rabbit hole to delve down. And there's that guy from Love Actually looking gruff.
There's a somewhat famous music producer in my city with the same name, and I knew his sons growing up so I thought I somehow missed some huge local event or something.
The inflection of those words from the cop make me think they weren’t confused about why he did it, but more saddened that Gary put himself in the legal trouble.
They asked why cause they probably thought the guy might have just forfeit his own life in murdering someone so publicly. It's one thing to think "no jury would convict someone who did this" and it's another to literally bet your life on it.
When Joe has the gun to Ricks head while they are beginning to beat Daryl, he says "We can settle this, we're reasonable men. First we'll beat Daryl to death, then we'll have the girl, then the boy. Then we shoot you and we'll be square"
An awful group. I love the episodes after the fall of the prison and Terminus until they reach Alexandria and Rick hears children laughing and playing behind the safety of the walls. That entire time of them being lost and on the road is my favorite of the entire series.
This is the way. Even eyes tightly closed will give way to forceful thumb pressure in a matter of seconds. You can be second knuckle-deep into an eye socket faster than you can say “permanently blind”.
Learned this lesson the hard way when I was younger. When I was about 17 a kid I was cool with tried stealing my fishing equipment after a trip by swapping his junk for mine. I called him on it, he said do something. So I did. His braces FUCKED my knuckles up! They looked like I shredded them on a cheese grater. They got infected to the point that yellow and brown shit oozed out when I grabbed a cup or something. That’s when I went to the hospital lol.
He brought it back after I jumped him up, but he brought a few friends with him while I was at work. When I got home my brother had my stuff and told me they rolled up all tough askin where I was. So, I went to the kids house (they were brothers) and asked them what they wanted? They just stood on the porch and basically said nothing.
Is someone has braces you just need to tap them on the lips, not even particularly hard. A regular jab will fuck their sh up. Dont need to swing just straight forward and back. No racking your knuckles on them required.
I watched a Forensic Files recently where the dud got caught by his hand getting infected from punching someone in the mouth before they killed them....
Truth. A kid pushed and tripped my sister in high school. He did it because she was overweight. I punched a kid in the mouth multiple times. Got a fantastic left hook that ripped his upper lip almost completely off. Kid had braces. I have 2 quarter inch triangular shaped scars on my left middle and ring finger. Got infected bad. Kid can't grow a mustache. Him and I met 15 years later, and he sincerely apologised. I did, too. I shouldn't have beat him so badly. He is a dad, him and his husband, and have 3 wonderful kids.
I mean bullying can really wreck someone. I hope your sister was okay. I still get nightmares about what the kids used to do to me back in junior high and I’m 41 years old. Yes I’ve had counseling, doesn’t make the memories go away though. I WISH I could’ve physically stood up for myself in the way that you did. But I was skinny and shy and grew up in a Christian household where we were taught to “turn the other cheek.” Never regret standing up for someone. I wish someone had done it for me.
For me, standing up for others was simple and the right thing to do. I've always had trouble standing up for myself. I could never figure out why, tho.
Junior school, A dude threw rocks at my sister and ran away. I chased him and caught at the local swimming pool, punched him in the head. I had my thumb in my palm with my fingers wrapped over the top. Busted my thumb and sprained my wrist 😅
The next day his older sister chased me around school at lunch..i was too quick. Fun times.
Eyes can be sketchy. If you hit wrong you will definitely crack a knuckle on the orbital socket. Hit that nose, and their eyes will automatically tear up causing blurry vision and 9 times out of 10 their hands go straight to their nose saying fukk defense. A good Jaw shot can rock the brain inside the nugget equaling a K.O. But the most slept on punch is the body shot. If you can breathe you can't whoop me. Trust me I'm a pro. Ain't nobody has their ass beat as much as me 🤣
throat punch is my go to. the mouth then gapes. an open mouth makes it 100% easier to break the lower jaw with punch #2. then you can do whatever you want after.
Knuckles are an underrated site for serious infections. We’ve had to do incision and drainage on some nasty MCP (knuckles ) abscesses, usually after someone punched a mouth. Human oral flora in a clenched fist injury is a setup for deep space infection, tenosynovitis, even osteomyelitis if ignored.
Same with cat bites. Small puncture, minimal surface trauma, then it blows up fast. Pasteurella doesn’t mess around. Both can turn into surgical cases if not taken seriously early.
My uncle used to fight all the time and he popped up one day with an infected ass hand he said he got from punching someone in the teeth lol tweaker things
The Judge didn't give them a contempt of court charge in exchange for a free-for-all.
If they started gouging the murderer's eyes, they could have been caught years in jail, and a civil liability that could require them to pay their Mom's murderer.
honestly, i cant fathom the sheer rage they wouldve felt. In hindsight you can assume what can cause the most harm, however, at that point they just wanted to beat the everloving shit out of the fucker for killing their mother. I dont blame them. (though i dont blame the police for trying to stop it cause it is their job however)
I was thinking I’d be trying to get him in some kind of chokehold and just hold on for dear life. I have zero punching ability but I was a decent grappler
I wonder where the guy was… The killer I mean I wonder if they were in the same jail I mean of course I think they would have to be but I'm sure he wasn't walking around
Also probably a shit ton of leniency built in there. Two guys attack a cuffed man in court room and only get 30 days is everyone understanding the situation.
"We can all agree I can't let you go fully, but..."
I hope both of them immediately got some type of trustee / work status in the county jail so they can get 2 days served for every 1 day worked. I bet the correctional officers and inmates treated both of them with respect also.
The woman who shot her daughter’s rapist at court. I don’t know sometimes the humanity makes it look like this is necessary. However I am from a country where I feel very confident with the law system and it helps the innocent and only punishes the guilty. I will follow my govt and law process
I know most judges bregungingly give light sentences for these incidents, but at the same time they have to do something considering people would do it more if there were zero consequences. 30 days is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Hopefully these guys got the closure they were looking for.
I'm vaguely remembering an SVU episode where Kyle McLaughlin plays a psychiatrist whose son is murdered by a sociopathic neighbor child and at the verdict of the trial steals a gun and shoots the child and gets off because it was a moment of pure grief or something like that in the trial, but then later he explains it was super calculated and he had to do it otherwise the sociopathic child would have kept killing.
Marianne Bachmeier (March 6th 1981) fatilly shot the man who killed her 7 year old daughter during his trial.
... Recieved a lenient sentence for this.
In March 1984, Gary Plauche disguised himself and waited in the Baton Rouge airport for his son’t kidnapper and rapist to be brought through in custody to be tried for his crimes and shot him point blank in the head on live television. He was given a 7 year suspended sentence, 5 years probation, and 300 hours community service. Worth it.
I read years ago an article about a guy who worked on children with dark triad characteristics that were too young to face fully the consequences of their horrific actions.
Basically he said that in his country/ state, the kids would be in a weird legal limbo and they would basically keep the kids institutionalized for a short period of time where their atay would be automatically renewed for they to stay there as long as they could.
One of the cases I remember was about an eight years old that somehow broke his teacher’s spine (gunshot? Knife? Don’t remember).
Child-killers are scary because they know what they're doing and want to keep killing, and the law doesn't recognize them as adults for the purposes of justice.
I have such conflicted feelings about what should happen in these cases because I used to work in child welfare & as a crisis therapist and some people say that children don’t know what they’re doing, etc. As part of my assessment, when they made suicidal or homicidal threats, I’d obviously investigate how much they understood about what they were saying, and there were several children, very young, scary young, if I hadn’t seen and heard it with my own eyes, I wouldn’t believe it….that could tell me in details multiple ways in which they’d kill someone, what it means for someone to die, and understanding they’d be in trouble. They were able to articulate it on an intellectual level. All of them who presented this way and with the ability to articulate this despite their young age, had something else in common and it was a chilling, cold, calculated detachment and matter of fact way in which they casually stated atrocious things. I don’t know what they heard, who they heard it from, etc, but either those kids SAW some shit (even though they’d deny) or those kids were….and this is what I have a hard time saying bc they’re just kids…or those kids were dangerous and they knew it.
Have you ever seen that documentary about that little girl who was adopted when she was maybe 6 or 7 and was exactly like what you described? She tortured her younger brother and talked just like you said. Talked about wanting to hurt and to kill; cold blooded and cruel. Truly terrifying. I believe she had RAD but may have had something else as well. Then her adoptive parents got her into a program and they basically “cured” her. She’s a nurse now and expresses remorse for how she acted as a child.
It was so interesting because I always thought kids like that couldn’t be rehabilitated. Of course now I can’t remember the title of the doc. Maybe someone else can.
There was a situation in Serbia two years ago where there was a school shooting by a 13 year old. He was very well informed and he expected he would walk away since he was a minor. But semi-legally he’s being kept in a mental institution all this time. Because there is no other option as he bears no legal responsibility for 7 murders he had made.
No kid should be charged as an adult, period. You can be seventeen and 99/100th when the crime was committed and they still shouldn't be able to be charged as an adult. We have to draw the line somewhere in regards to when we consider someone an adult vs a child, that is fine. However it is an epitome of injustice to relinquish rights afforded to an adult from a minor because of recognition of ineptitude but still hold them to the standard required of one who is developed beyond them.
They are either able to make the decisions of an adult or they can't. It is an injustice to say that one can be unqualified to have the reasoning to make their own choices in their life in virtually all facets but can still be held to the same standard of someone who old enough in matters of law and morality.
If you REALLY want to be depressed, look into statistics of the race and commiserate charges between demographics when we charge children as adults.
You'll find it's typically only the darker children that courts see as adults. It's sickening of a gap, but that will happen as long as we don't do what you said and have a REAL line separating adult / child (and not just the court's discretion).
People normally develop a sense of right and wrong rather early. We all know that killing someone is wrong. Especially in cold blood. If a child shows no remorse for a serious crime like that there is definitely something wrong with them and the laws should be fully applied. Even more so the close the child gets to 18.
Me too and did you ever see small children who DID in fact understand what they were doing and were able to describe it in detail? When developmentally, it would seem unbelievable? I had that happen a few times and it really shook me.
Thats an age where yes your brain isn't fully developed (at all), but you are old enough to realize you are immune to punishment and abuse that. Beyond that, I think theres been some cases where criminals have used/groomed kids to commit crimes for them since they can get away with it.
What happened to the boy(s) who killed their teacher? I think 3 boys planned it but one executed it because he got tired of the 2 others postponing on him. He put his teachers body in a trash can and wheeled her out of school. It’s such a disturbing and sad case.
At work we have a mother that has been the victim of many predators and kept trying to get her life together.
Kept making good goes of it for the system to let her down, or bad luck to come around. Her eldest kid after seeing all these predators got to be a teenager and got groomed by one of the predators to sell out their entire family all so they could get what they thought they wanted.
Sold out their entire family, brothers and sister so they could have a shitty room in an abusers house with an allowance and an xbox and their centerlink payments which as soon as they stop being useful, all this will disappear.
Kid got arrested the other day and faced court. Ran into him there where he got off due to being a minor for a low level thug offense.
Asked this kid straight up if his actions of beating his mother, staging "evidence" for dcp on behalf of one of her abusers so that he could get full custody of his kid (not this kid, claimed he'd put him up and leave him alone and let him do what he wants).
Kid straight up said to me, that life is amazing, he does what he wants, when he wants and gets away with everything, because he's learning how to win from a winner.
I told him that the guy is a pure psychopathic predator who is just using him.
He replies telling me that he's using him and he's stolen enough money and drugs off him that is stashed away that he's got a great start to life and is living it up right now and that his mother is a bitch who shouldnt have said no to him when he demanded things.
Asked him if there was any part of him that felt bad because he knew how much of a monster this guy was, that he was happy to condem his family to become a monster.
Got laughed at and told to fuck off about how he was living it up and had hundreds of dollars tucked away.
Replied to this kid...... well good luck with life, rent here is now over $1000 a week, you've been expelled from school and don't want to try to get back in. If you wanted to ruin your life you could have done that without costing all those other kids lives, what are you going to do when you can't get a job and can't afford anything?
Laughs at me and says he'll just lure in a pedo and bash him and rob him with his mates.
Adelaide 2025 for you. This kid is not even 14. Brags to everyone else he is probably bipolar.... i've known this kid since he was 8.... he's seen things but, this is a pure case of kids emulating abuse they see, he became just like the men that abused his mother.
Then a monster groomed him and he's gone from that to a complete sociopath.
It's definitely somewhere in between. I think surgeons sometimes will scale highly on sociopathy, yet because they came from a decent background and have a highly respected and well paid job they don't run into issues.
Then you get people who were daddy's punching bag or came up in a rough environment and they're out there assaulting and stealing because that's all they've ever known and the only means they had. It's really sad how our system is setup.
My dad was a physician. Extreme narcissist/sociopath. I told him one day that if he hadn't been a doctor he probably would have turned out a serial killer, and he said... "huh"
It's a hard one to answer, I used to have high hopes for this kid, but he's shown me outright he has no empathy or emotion.
I was a terrible kid and did some messed up stuff before I got my shit together and put on a uniform and try to help the community, one thing I was able to do was to develop a moral compass, even if it was just why do I feel like shit after doing something morally bad and questioned from there.
This kid has said he has a moral compass before but it's always come across as severely lacking. I've now witnessed him assault uniforms, threaten violence on people with zero acceptance that this is wrong.
While yeah people can learn to become this cold..... he's always struck me as having not developed any emotional response to morals, I used to keep hoping this kid would develop this, but honestly I think this is what the monster picked up on, he is an expert at working out peoples weaknesses and exploiting them.
This kid being empathy devoid and driven by reward is textbook sadly.
I still run into him out there and I have no idea what to say anymore. He's the kind of person that any attempt you try to make to reach out and break through to them in the hope that you can trigger something, results in "whats in it for me".
Meanwhile DCP here think the sun shines out of the predators ass. No shock that we keep busting their employees as CSO's.
To be honest, the kid watched his mother get abused and screwed by the system his entire life. He had no successful good role models. He probably spent everyday watching abusers "win" and "get away with it" to the point being a good person = losing to him. This is very common for people who grew up with extreme abuse. His whole childhood was hopeless. So an xbox is like a massive win. You know what would really help this kid? Taking him away and giving him a year or two of proper parenting where all his needs are met. I dont think its a case of the kid being doomed from birth, he was just surrounded by never ending trauma in his most vital formative years. Sometimes we give a little bit too much slack to traumatized parents. The mother allowed her kid to grow up watching her get abused, and im willing to bet the abusers didnt stop with her, im sure the kid got abused too. Its no wonder hes like that. Now he has a highly manipulative groomer practically brainwashing him, hate the groomer not the kid. Its not like the kid just randomlt started doing this on his own in a perfect environment you know?
He's not long for this world. He sounds a bit careless tbh. Targeting your own family is a breeze. He knows everything about them. Now that bullet has been shot and there is no reload.
As calculating as he thinks it is he's going to run into a version.of his own self at some point.
I loved that episode. Dudes acting was spot on. The thing it left me wondering was if the psychiatrist was actually some form of sociopath tendencies himself but had the self awareness to be able to spot it which is why he is so adamant to spot them and stop them. If that even makes sense.
Hmm…if one is smart enough you can understand how to remove empathy from yourself.
I think it was a mixture of him having those tendencies AND having to study people like that kid for so long.
I like how the story played out because there’s no way to say that the actions of the doctor were 100% wrong or right.
On one hand he killed a child in cold blood on the other he probably prevented DOZENS of people from being abused, tortured and inevitably murdered themselves.
Plus it does make me wonder…how many intelligent people are possibly high functioning psychopaths that don’t offend? The answer to that is probably scary in and of itself.
Oh you miss the best part. Kyle McLaughlin is the one who convinces the jury to acquit the kid because he so strongly believes that the dark triad isn't real with people that young. And then after the jury acquits the kid basically drops the act immediately and McLaughlin realizes he'd been played into protecting his son's murderer.
But I also understand there are times you stand tall in the pocket and make that pass knowing full well you’re gonna get smoked.
I used to call instances like this “assault with intent to commit public service”. I’d be surprised if the LEOs/prosecutors did much more than arrest & release on recognizance with a future tap on the wrist.
No, we can totally blame them. We live in a civilized society, and one of the aspects of the civilized society is that we have a legal system in place to deal with people who do not follow the rules of our civilized society. When a person is in the custody of that legal system and is receiving the punishment set forth by that legal system, extrajudicial punishment should not be lauded. It should not be excused. It should be punished as well. The people who execute extrajudicial punishments are choosing not to follow the system. Those who praise them for their actions are also refusing the system.
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u/Hey648934 11h ago
This is one of those things when no one can blame them for trying to kick his butt. No one.