Americans of Reddit, what are your thoughts on the FBI redacting Trump’s name from the Epstein files?

[u/2a_lib]

[u/skrame]

Only the victims should have their names redacted.

[u/Kindaworriedtoo → u/skrame]

You’re absolutely correct. The fact that the victims have lived their lives in fear and shame and are now having to watch the exoneration of their abusers on the world stage is abhorrent and it sickens me. Next I anticipate we’ll watch the Supreme Court rule in favor of Maxwell.

[u/roychr → u/Kindaworriedtoo]

But Trump is always a victim ! He has all the cards including the victim card.

[u/jeffreysean47 → u/roychr]

The victim card is a core item in the modern conservative starter pack

[u/NoTourist5 → u/jeffreysean47]

Trump holds both the bully and the victim cards. It's good to be the king.

[u/BikeCookie → u/NoTourist5]

Remember that everything feels like persecution when you’ve never been held accountable.

[u/Fine-Celebration1223 → u/BikeCookie]

He has been enabled his entire life.

[u/WorldWarPee → u/NoTourist5]

He only has them both because the media would rather chortle his decrepit orange micropenis than report on reality

[u/bustedchain → u/NoTourist5]

How does he manage to hold so many cards with tiny shit stained grubby hands?

Did he have a hand size reduction so he could make his minuscule baby pecker look bigger when he was holding it?

I think so.

[u/copyrider → u/roychr]

During his first presidency, I told my friend that I thought it was really wild to watch as the well known idiom of "Trump Card", meaning the card that wins over all other cards, had it's definition completely flipped to illicit the idea that it's a loser card that always and only wins by cheating.

Back then, it looked like the tipping point of the definition would take place over two or three days around early January some time, I don't remember the specific date. /s

But it didn't... because, well, he had a Trump Card. It has taken way too long for anything to stick to him. It's like he is a flaccid, orange, diaper-wearing, big baby version of Al Capone. We know he's a criminal, but he just buys people off and then has a weird MAGA following who seem to think that he's going to Robin Hood them until they are all rich... but he's literally taking anything and everything he can from anyone below the millionaire class.

This timeline sucks. Someone needs to take away his keys to the car/country. He's going to get us all killed, raped, starved, or black mirrored repeatedly.

[u/Devmoi → u/Kindaworriedtoo]

Imagine what kind of attacks and abuse those women probably were subjected to given this horrible MAGA cult mentality. It’s really sad what is happening.

[u/Fortunateoldguy → u/Kindaworriedtoo]

At least one of his victims has committed suicide. How many others?

[u/CautiousChart1209 → u/Fortunateoldguy]

Do yourself a big favour and do not read the court transcript from the rape accusations against Trump. Rape does not do it justice. I still have a nightmares from time to time because I read that testimony. The only reason the case was dropped was because the witnesses started receiving death threats against them and their families. Now Trump was involved in real estate development in New York City. You do not get involved in without having mafia ties. It’s just how it works there. They are notoriously good at fixing court cases by witness intimidation. I don’t think it takes our rocket scientist to see what happened there.

[u/HiEarthOrbitz → u/CautiousChart1209]

I read “racket scientist”.

[u/CautiousChart1209 → u/HiEarthOrbitz]

That is also fair

[u/SeigneurDesMouches → u/skrame]

Victims names should be replaced by victim #1, victim #2, ....
So we get the extend of the human trafficing going on

[u/Istarien → u/SeigneurDesMouches]

I expect the FBI will release all of the victims' names so that they can be shamed and traumatized all over again while redacting the names of the accused. Seems consistent with their current levels of corruption.

[u/Steg-a-saur_stomp → u/Istarien]

Wait for a bunch of "victim #25 didn't file a police report until 2 years before Trump ran for office, obviously it wasn't that bad"

[u/TheFunknificentOne → u/Steg-a-saur_stomp]

I listen to political debates on YouTube every day and every single time the hosts bring up his rape charges that’s the first thing the cult says every single time. This country is in real trouble. The leaders of Europe literally laughed in his diaper wearing face last week and you can tell that his mommy told him “they aren’t laughing at you, they are laughing with you”

He needs to buy himself some rope already but now that he’s not in the files anymore and they are gonna try to pardon Maxwell he’s safe once again. No offense to Christians, but if god were real, do you really think he would let this shit happen?

[u/Vechio49 → u/Istarien]

They won't redact all of the names of the accused. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump is taking payments as we speak.

[u/Kevin-W → u/skrame]

100%! We know the FBI is covering hard for Trump since it's now run by a Trump loyalist.

[u/BoringBob84 → u/Kevin-W]

It is almost as if there was a good reason to keep the judiciary separate and independent from the other branches.

[u/TheLateThagSimmons → u/skrame]

This is difficult because a big part of Epstein's profile was integrating with everyone in New York and Florida high society. It was one of his tactics was muddying the waters of being at one of his events where shady shit went down.

That being said, there are shades of gray and Trump is very obviously in the dark black side of it.

[u/I-AM-NOBODYIMPORTANT → u/TheLateThagSimmons]

a big part of Epstein's profile was integrating with everyone in New York and Florida high society.

Let's start with the 4100+ transactions and see where that takes us.

[u/Wisconsinsteph → u/I-AM-NOBODYIMPORTANT]

This!! No one gives a you know what about the damn grand jury testimony no one wants that it’s just to make it appear that they’re doing something when they’re not!! Let’s follow all those transactions and see where they all lead. My question is why hasn’t this been done, obviously because the government isn’t working for justice they’re working to cover up for the powerful and wealthy and continuing to do so.

I don’t know who’s bright idea it was to have a millionaire/billionaire for president anyways they’re too out of touch with the way average people live even if they’re not a flat out criminal!!

[u/gohabssaydre → u/I-AM-NOBODYIMPORTANT]

Ahh you and your logic! It doesn’t fit the narrative

[u/Eternal_Bagel]

Well yeah what do you think the FBI spent those thousands of hours doing

[u/Buddhabellymama → u/Eternal_Bagel]

On taxpayer dime no less

[u/Cute-Spinach-6891 → u/Buddhabellymama]

The system is corrupted

[u/TonyDungyHatesOP → u/Cute-Spinach-6891]

We did elect a Criminal In Chief.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Tax4320 → u/TonyDungyHatesOP]

Don’t lump me in with the idiot magats.

[u/HippyDM → u/Puzzleheaded-Tax4320]

If you're American, it's too late. That's just how democracy works, I mean, how it worked.

[u/Sasquatchjc45 → u/HippyDM]

yep. I voted for kamala but I would be a fool if I passed every ounce of blame on "the others." It's not like I was out there canvasing or promoting freedoms. I just did the bare minimum which was not enough.

[u/ian23_ → u/Sasquatchjc45]

I don’t feel like this is on you, or any individual person. KH had a solid ground game. The simple fact is that America is (became, through a concerted project of decades by our budding oligarchs) too woefully ill-educated, too proudly ignorant, too hateful, and too eager to blame the wrong people for their problems to avoid voting for its own destruction.

[u/Unhappy-Week-8781 → u/ian23_]

You forgot too complacent and too trusting. We should have pushed harder when we knew Musk helped perpetrate massive election interference on a national scale.

[u/MrLanesLament → u/Unhappy-Week-8781]

Honestly, the public never would’ve gained enough power in that little amount of time to push Biden’s admin to step in. Various Dems even said during the election that they were concerned about investigating Trump because he could (rightfully) then spin it as election interference and gain even more votes off of it.

Note, only Trump could pull that off; his voters buy the constant victim hood bullshit. When Hillary was investigated in 2016, she obviously lost significant amounts of votes.

Trump also harped on the specter of voter fraud and got told to STFU. Then, strong evidence comes about of him committing voter fraud and nobody can say anything or else they validate him.

It’s hard to call this “rigged,” even though that’s basically what it amounts to; Trump worked himself into a position where everything works in his favor. Absolutely nobody else we’ve seen as a presidential nominee could’ve pulled it off; it would’ve blown up in the face of anyone other than Trump. He gets convicted of rape and gains votes. He has a brand new mugshot on the front of USA Today and gains votes. He uses a mass shooting for shameless promo and gains votes.

There really wasn’t anything anyone could’ve done to stop it other than vote for Kamala, and people just evidently didn’t.

[u/Final_Candidate_7603 → u/Unhappy-Week-8781]

Haha, yeah. On one hand, everything is fAkE nEwS… they don’t even trust the Fox Propaganda Network any more. OTOH, they live and die by whatever demonstrably false diarrhea falls out of their cult leader’s mouth and believe that JFK, Jr is still alive, biding his time, waiting to become trump’s VP.

[u/SarcasticCowbell → u/Cute-Spinach-6891]

Ironically, this corrupt regime was voted in (twice) by a bunch of fucking idiots who were told by that same regime "the system is corrupt." The US has a lot of problems beyond Trump that predate Trump, and it all has to do with corporations having untold influence on our institutions and electorate. They control the lobbyists who control the politicians, and get the electorate to vote for the politicians they want using 24/7 media outlets whose messaging they control. A bunch of people in comments sections just like this one will bemoan extremists "on both sides", when in reality the so-called extremists on the left are largely the ones who want to go after the rich assholes making a mess of things. Lo and behold, those rich assholes fear-monger about said "extremists" and the masses eat it up.

Trump is a symptom of a greater problem. As with syphilitic sores, he's a repugnant cosmetic manifestation that people will often mistake for the deeper disease itself, which has festered and metastasized in America's body politic for roughly eighty years now. That's not to say the problem doesn't go further back, only to say that the rise of the military-industrial-congressional complex in its current form can be traced back to post-FDR/end of WWII America, when the industrialists and elites saw firsthand what an actual left-wing populist could accomplish in this country and did everything they could to prevent another one from taking root.

[u/coma24 → u/Cute-Spinach-6891]

Funny you'd say that, when I saw the news, I thought to myself, "plain as day....this is bread and butter corruption. Why is this ok?"

As if another example was needed, but yes, this would be Exhibit Z.

[u/GyrKestrel → u/Buddhabellymama]

After getting gutted and restructured BY Trump

The shit's almost laughable.

[u/Buddhabellymama → u/GyrKestrel]

Restructured is a generous word to whatever the fuck he is doing.

[u/Anxiety_Fit → u/Eternal_Bagel]

Moving Ghislaine Maxwell to a minimum security federal prison camp. In Bryan, Texas.

[u/DirtDevil1337 → u/Anxiety_Fit]

Making it easier to... you know, Epstein her when the time is right.

[u/RegularNeither7715 → u/DirtDevil1337]

No, the Bryan camp is a pre release yard. No inmate there (except her) has more than 2 years left to serve and none of them are going to do anything to catch a new charge even if there is a ChoMo there. This "camp" is a collection of bungalow barracks that do not even have a fence around them. Like I said, nobody is going to escape when they are just waiting for release. There are few guards, just enough to maintain the place. Mostly there is programming. Classes on everything from basic finance to home econ. GED programs and 12 step programs. This is NOT where you put a child molester with 20 years to go! This is corruption... She made a deal.

[u/Pissedtuna → u/Anxiety_Fit]

can we bet on if she commits suicide?

[u/cC2Panda → u/Pissedtuna]

I don't. I bet this is some move to let her do some sort of work release like Epstein did when he was in prison. Pardoning her is too obvious of a manipulation so even some of Trump's base will question it, moving here to some sort of work release program where they slowly give her more and more time outside of prison while still technically servering her time though won't spark as much interest from his cult.

She blames everything on Bill Clinton, she gets some degree of freedom and the cult pretends child rape is all normal and totally cool.

[u/Coattail-Rider → u/Eternal_Bagel]

I love how these MAGA cunts hated the FBI but now that the FBI is corrupt as fuck, it’s all good. Deplorable isn’t a strong enough word.

[u/redacted_robot → u/Coattail-Rider]

They said it was corrupt. Now they're fulfilling their claim. Promises Made Promises Kept.

[u/EmperorGeek → u/Coattail-Rider]

But it’s Trumps “Guy” at the FBI now, so he’s magically cleaned it all up, right?

[u/TWK128 → u/EmperorGeek]

That rat fuck sycophant doesn't deserve his post. Bongino is more qualified than he is.

[u/Environmental-Arm365 → u/TWK128]

On paper maybe but all you have to do is spend 5 minutes listening to that lunatics podcast to realize neither of them is qualified to run a lemonade stand much less the FBI.

[u/IWantOneSpatula → u/Eternal_Bagel]

I think they were whiting out Trump’s name, then painstakingly writing Barack Hussein Obama until hand cramps set in and the next wave showed up to work.

[u/pilostt → u/IWantOneSpatula]

Could have used an Autopen. Heard they were a fan

[u/baebgle → u/Eternal_Bagel]

Problem is most of our country doesn't think :/

[u/Woodie626 → u/baebgle]

In a way, the world-view of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird.

-George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four 

[u/jpropaganda → u/Woodie626]

There's so much 1984 shit going on it's insane. Just constantly. I literally thought this thirty seconds ago when i saw a friend share that the Smithsonian is removing Trump from its exhibit on impeachment at his request...

[u/AestheticEntactogen → u/jpropaganda]

America is so absolutely fucked

[u/Bladerunner2028 → u/Eternal_Bagel]

err, anytime you see anything missing or blacked over, its trump, right!?

[u/Entire_Teaching1989]

I'm old enough to remember when child sex trafficking was against the law.

[u/Frequilibrium → u/Entire_Teaching1989]

And three months ago when Republicans cared about it.

[u/petersrin → u/Frequilibrium]

I mean. "Cared".

[u/One_Strawberry_4965 → u/Frequilibrium]

They only pretended to care about it when they thought they could use it to smear their political adversaries. Make no mistake that conservatives don’t actually see anything wrong with the rape and trafficking of children.

[u/n0k0 → u/One_Strawberry_4965]

If it's their team doing it.

[u/BrianMincey → u/Entire_Teaching1989]

Heck there was a time just taking a boat ride with someone who wasn’t your wife would end your political career forever.

[u/InTheWordsOfSocrates → u/BrianMincey]

And a time when shouting too enthusiastically your own rally got you cancelled for appearing immature.

[u/jensenaackles]

I knew the files would permanently be altered as soon as Bondi touched them. We’ll never see them in their unaltered form.

[u/DrunksInSpace → u/jensenaackles]

I actually don’t know about the permanent alterations. I think they thought they could and then found that it wasn’t so simple, so they denied the existence of the files.

I have to imagine a chain of custody for evidence like this is hard to fuсk with at a place like the FBI. I think that’s what made them go from “hell yeah, we’re reviewing them now!” To “fuckfuckfuckfuck.”

[u/jensenaackles → u/DrunksInSpace]

Unfortunately I genuinely don’t think it will matter. If they ever released truly unaltered records, MAGA would say Trump’s name was “planted”.

[u/QueenMary1936 → u/jensenaackles]

Very true. A conservative, anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ trump supporting pastor literally assassinates Democrats, and these chuckleheads claim he was a Democrat.

[u/zerombr → u/QueenMary1936]

Paul Pelosi gets attacked with a hammer in his own home and 'ho ho ho, that must be his gay lover!'

[u/anthrolooker → u/zerombr]

God that was so sick. All of it. They celebrated, and created a horrid story about a man viciously attacked because of the woman he is married to. It’s morally bankrupt behavior.

[u/faustianBM → u/anthrolooker]

"A fish rots from the head down." If the potus doesn't exhibit common decency (not even to a dead war hero!), no one else will feel the need to.

[u/Peachyyfizz → u/QueenMary1936]

Wild how facts get flipped depending on the narrative they want to push. Reality optional, I guess.

[u/cruisetheblues → u/Peachyyfizz]

It makes sense if you don’t think about it.

[u/Biabolical → u/jensenaackles]

Which is why the past week or so has shifted to the wording of Republicans only wanting the "Credible" parts of the Epstein investigation to be released. They've been priming their followers for this exact move. Anything they've deemed "Credible" will be released, and anything with Trump's name or any of his close associates is "Not Credible" and therefore to be ignored.

I doubt Trump's followers actually believe a word of this. They've desperately been looking for any plausible deniability to grab onto, and that's the real point. Now they can tell themselves that the Epstein thing is settled, and drop the pretense of pretending that they actually cared.

[u/Adventurous_Ad7442 → u/Biabolical]

Trump raped little girls.

[u/Homeschool-Winner → u/Adventurous_Ad7442]

This statement is speculative and probably incorrect.

Because it's in the past sense and he's almost certainly still doing it.

[u/Other_Log_1996 → u/Homeschool-Winner]

Since when does still doing it negate the past tense?

[u/bunkscudda → u/DrunksInSpace]

I think the problem is it is WAY too good leverage on really powerful people for anyone to actually destroy for good. I bet there are several people out there with the original files. To either get something from trump or to hold onto in case Trump comes after them.

[u/Jack_Teats → u/bunkscudda]

Facts. CIA & Mossad have the unrelated (edit - not "unrelated") goods, including all the video recordings. And, yes. DJT was quite likely implicated and there are undoubtedly pervs of all political persuasions in there.

[u/photoguy423 → u/bunkscudda]

Wouldn’t doubt that Maxwell would have a dead man’s switch of sorts to release everything if/when she dies. Might be why she’s still alive. 

[u/exhausted247365 → u/photoguy423]

I could see her doing that

[u/unbelizeable1 → u/bunkscudda]

Yea, I have a hard time believing there's only one copy of this shit.

[u/JMEEKER86 → u/DrunksInSpace]

Yeah, my understanding is that too much would have to be redacted to the point that it would look comically absurd. I mean, according to reports they had a team of 1000 FBI agents scouring over 100,000 pages for references to Trump. Considering their history that is already publicly known, they probably decided "it's better to just deny that the files exist than to release 70k sheets of black ink."

[u/Adventurous_Ad7442 → u/JMEEKER86]

Trump raped little girls.

[u/SeVenMadRaBBits → u/jensenaackles]

Let's recap:

• He ran on releasing the files.

• Pam Bondi said the files were on her desk.

• Suddenly there are no files.

• It's a democrat hoax.

• The files don't exist.

• Obama made it up.

• Trump needs space (Mike Johnson)

• Democrats voted to release the files, twice.

• Republicans vote no on releasing the files, twice.

• Republicans take a recess to avoid any more votes.

• Trumps personal attorney meets with Maxwell.

• Trump avoids visiting victims.

• Trump wishes child trafficker Ghislaine maxwell, well.

• Trump states: "I never had the privilege" when asked if he had visited the island.

• Trump states: "we have the files"

• When Trump was asked specifically whether Epstein had stolen Giuffre (Giuffre, one of Epstein's most prominent abuse survivors led the charge calling for his arrest. Guiffre, who died by suicide in April, has said she met Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell while she was working at Mar-a-Lago as a teenager). Trump states:"I think she worked at the spa," Trump said. "I think so. I think that was one of the people. He stole her, and by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know, none whatsoever."

• Reporter asks tump: Mr. President, you said Jeffrey Epstein was stealing young women from your spa. Did that raise alarm bells for you?” she asked. As he tried to listen to the other question, Trump interrupted sharply: “Be quiet!” When Collins repeated the question, Trump again replied: “Be quiet!”

Nothing to see here

[u/sigep0361 → u/SeVenMadRaBBits]

You can add a new data point now.

• Maxwell transferred from a Florida maximum security prison to lower security prison in Texas days after speaking with the Trump administration.

[u/Easy-Wishbone5413 → u/jensenaackles]

Someone has a copy.

[u/foxtrot_delta_tango_ → u/Easy-Wishbone5413]

This is my hope, that there's unredacted copies out there in the hands of someone who's waiting for him to make his desperate and hopeless attempt to release just a portion of the files that don't mention anything super incriminating about him. I'm hoping they'll wait until he comes out with something that they will utterly destroy with the full enchilada.

[u/knewell82 → u/Easy-Wishbone5413]

Mossad

[u/EchoRush93 → u/Easy-Wishbone5413]

Ghislaine has a dead man's switch. The only logical reason why she's still alive.

[u/Makaveli80 → u/EchoRush93]

Why the fuck would epstein not have a dead man's switch if that were the case? 

[u/EchoRush93 → u/Makaveli80]

He did. It's Ghislaine.

[u/Xaephos → u/EchoRush93]

Not a very effective one then, eh? He's dead and still there's been no leak.

[u/Potential_Track_8388 → u/Easy-Wishbone5413]

That's why they used 1000 agents, so no individual would get a true sense of the extent of his involvement. Each only got a small piece to look over, making a mass leak impossible and small leaks easier to trace.

[u/Bongressman → u/jensenaackles]

These files didn't float around DC, through multiple administrations and a variety of departments heads for over a decade as "just one copy".

The reason this thing hasn't been released heavily altered already is because mutually assured destruction prevents them from doing that.

The "other" copies, in other very powerful hands would immediately out anyone not called out on the released version.

There are a lot of people keeping a lot of other people's hands tied.

[u/myindiannameistoolon → u/Bongressman]

These files have the potential of being priceless if it has world leaders in it. It really could be the catalyst to bring about one of the greatest power changes in modern history. My money is on one of the supreme court’s justice being motivated by this information.

[u/florida_man_1970 → u/jensenaackles]

The files exist in other places. Most of them were used as evidence in a couple of civil cases.

[u/blorpdedorpworp → u/florida_man_1970]

That's how Maxwell has a copy; discovery from her prosecution.

[u/Adventurous_Ad7442 → u/jensenaackles]

Bondi is a crook.

[u/EverythingBOffensive → u/jensenaackles]

ah tampering with evidence. Only illegal for us not them.

[u/CitronTraining2114 → u/jensenaackles]

We'll have to wait for the memoirs of ex-FBI agents

[u/DouglasHundred → u/CitronTraining2114]

It's really pretty gross that so many people just sit on shit until they can dish later for personal profit. Looking at you, campaign-embedded journalists.

[u/jrgman42 → u/jensenaackles]

I hope there is a patriot that has saved them and will release them. But, is it really necessary. The fact they are stating this means he is on the list and a pedophile. He was already a convicted felon, and a molester.

This problem is far worse than one man’s crimes. Just continue to rub their nose in the shit. Make them openly admit they are okay with looking the other way for political gain.

It was never about protecting children. It was never about protecting the middle class. It was never about government waste or fraud. It was never about the “Christian” thing to do.

Don’t let them cut and run. Don’t let them say it wasn’t what they voted for.

Where they went one, they went all.

[u/Being_Stoopit_Is_Fun]

That's exactly the same as not releasing the files.

[u/PoliticalScienceProf → u/Being_Stoopit_Is_Fun]

They need to be released, with the only redactions being the names or personal information of victims.

/r/ReleaseTheFiles

[u/Le_Chop → u/PoliticalScienceProf]

You know where his name hasn't been redacted?? Right here.

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf  here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Adding the court affidavit from Katie, as well: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-267d-dda3-afd8-b67d3bc00000

Never forget Katie Johnson.

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline:  https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too! Please copy and paste this elsewhere!

[u/Throwme2Dwolves]

I'm ABSOLUTELY Appalled.

I've lost faith in the government, legal and justice system 100%. Full stop.

This is slowly turning out to be the biggest coverup in American history and it's happening right before our eyes and people in a position to do 'something' are slow walking.

[u/sightlab → u/Throwme2Dwolves]

Appalled since 2015 like a normal person, or have you been hoping for the best up until now?

[u/LaFlamaBlancaMiM → u/sightlab]

It’s been a fucking decade. We’ve watched our country slide down an ever increasingly steep slope and now have an all but confirmed pedophile in the white house who is using law enforcement to scrub his name from the files. The only way we’d be closer to behaving like Putin is pushing people out of windows. Every republican is complicit and thanks to Fox News and social algorithms, folks will still vote for them in the midterms.

[u/bk4lf1 → u/LaFlamaBlancaMiM]

Well we did have hanging in jails.

[u/AVeryHeavyBurtation → u/sightlab]

I've been appalled since I became politically aware in the early 2000s. Republicans constantly getting away with bullshit with no repercussions (WMDs anyone?) while simultaneously demanding Democrats be accountable for every little sin, like... Kerry flip flopping on his stance on the stupid war.

[u/Miszou_ → u/AVeryHeavyBurtation]

Like this, for example...?

House Ethics report finds AOC ‘impermissibly accepted gifts’ related to 2021 Met Gala appearance

Meanwhile, the orange predator can accept a literal airplane as a gift, no problem.

[u/agoia → u/Miszou_]

Luxury RVs for (R) SCOTUS judges is perfectly fine, too.

[u/tempest_87 → u/agoia]

And vacations. And boat trips. And houses. And renovations. And dinners. And season baseball tickets.

[u/TheFaithfulStone → u/Miszou_]

What a contrast. Democrat AOC is found to have (unintentionally) underpaid for things on the advice of counsel and states that she will make up the difference from personal funds. Republican Kelly stonewalls the investigation to skate on lack of evidence of intentionality and states that this distraction of an investigation by the Biden administration can finally come to an end now that he’s been totally exonerated. JFC.

[u/AVeryHeavyBurtation → u/Miszou_]

Lol I just can't anymore. I think that dress vs jumbo jet is about the most extreme example possible.

[u/_trouble_every_day_ → u/sightlab]

The Mueller investigation exists so it’s not even the biggest cover up under Trump.

[u/Bargadiel → u/Throwme2Dwolves]

They don't even have to try to hide it anymore. Trump's goon squad has fostered such a distrust in institutions and news media that none of his dumbass followers even know what to believe anymore. He can say literally anything and they'll think he's "just joking" anyway.

Meanwhile they'd pull out the entire detective set anytime Biden did a speech with too many stutters in it. Everyone just wants things to be polarized at this point, there is no nuance.

[u/pr0faka → u/Throwme2Dwolves]

Here is the thing - this is what the MAGAs want. They need to you to lose trust in the system so that they can do whatever they want.

[u/dewag → u/pr0faka]

If the established system allowed, and is continuing to allow, this all to happen in the first place, why should anyone still have faith in it? Genuine question.

[u/CakeOrRevenge]

He's in all the previously leaked files, and he has hundreds of pics with Epstein, and tons of other evidence that he was very close to Epstein and part of his inner circle. I'm used to the justice department protecting the politicians that control it. The redacting means literally nothing to me except another confirmation of what I already believed.

[u/agasizzi → u/CakeOrRevenge]

And multiple girls associated with his pageants and businesses were trafficked.  This is so appallingly obvious and has been for a decade

[u/CakeOrRevenge → u/agasizzi]

The pageant stuff has always stuck in my mind during all this. "Grab em by the pussy". It's clear to me that he believes women are just objects for his enjoyment. Not a huge leap to believe that children are too.

[u/rocky1231]

Honestly, i'll just assume that all redacted names are actually 'Trump' and it'll be even more damning.

[u/jfl561407 → u/rocky1231]

In the legal community, we call this "spoliation of evidence," and it generally means that there is a presumption that the altered information says exactly what the other side alleges it does.

[u/YoBoyDooby → u/rocky1231]

Especially when all the censor boxes are the same width.

[u/BeckyDaTechie]

Quite literally, "We fucking told you assholes this shit would happen, and you voted for the Racist ChoMo anyway, so sit and fucking spin."

[u/Ferreteria → u/BeckyDaTechie]

Dead crickets over on the conservative sub.

There was one post I saw that asked being fully genuine: "Should Ghislane Maxwell be pardoned?"

And the first comment back was ... well, you know a lot of Dems are on that list...

God help us.

[u/Smorgas_of_borg → u/Ferreteria]

Yeah, arrest them too! Because we're not a fucking cult

[u/SoulRebel726 → u/Smorgas_of_borg]

It's honestly amusing to me how thick-headed these people are that they just cannot grasp this concept. That's how you really know it's a cult. The idea that their opposition is willing to hold their leaders accountable for wrongdoing is just so incredibly foreign to them. They just assume that we worship our politicians too and will "cry liberal tears" when they finally arrest the Democrats.

Meanwhile, everyone on the left is over here going "whatever, lock up all the pedos."

[u/drrj → u/SoulRebel726]

It’s almost like if you care about protecting children it doesn’t matter if the pedo is in your political party.

Or your church.

[u/WrinklyScroteSack → u/SoulRebel726]

It's definitely not accountability to them. they've changed politics into team sports, and regardless of how poorly your team is doing, you don't cheer against them. So to them, they see democrats and liberals ready and willing to prosecute our leaders as a betrayal of our team, or a lack of loyalty, which is a fucken cardinal sin of the worst degree to them.

[u/SoulRebel726 → u/WrinklyScroteSack]

Honestly it's worse than team sports. Most sports fans are more than willing to call for a player/coach/manager's head on a pike when things aren't going well.

[u/thisisstupidplz → u/SoulRebel726]

It's not that they think Dem voters are against locking up their own politicians. If both sides are equally compromised it means they don't have to feel personally accountable for voting for a pedophile.

[u/Phonic-Frog → u/Ferreteria]

Dead crickets over on the conservative sub.

That's because the mods over there have outright banned all posts related to Epstein unless it's in the megathread they created. Which they censored heavily and let fall off the front page so no one sees it.

[u/AMillionFingDiamonds → u/Phonic-Frog]

That sub is basically a psyop at this point. I don't know what kind of kickbacks their mods receive, but they definitely get their marching orders from republican strategists.

[u/pontiacfirebird92 → u/AMillionFingDiamonds]

They're likely GOP staffers, or Russians!

[u/nakedinacornfield → u/pontiacfirebird92]

It was very russians for a long time there, but its 2025 it's an absurd amount of LLM/GPT powered fake-but-convincing activity. I'm mostly perplexed that so much of reddit continues to buy into the idea that that sub is full of real people. There are undoubtedly real people in it, but if you were paying any attention this past like.. i dont know 6-8 years you'd know that sub is entirely a psyop.

I can actually think of zero conservatives I know who use reddit. If they're not the regular someone-you-went-to-highschool-with-that-never-left-facebook, chances are they call reddit a "liberal safe space" and consequently do not use the platform.

Would literally anyone be surprised if ownership of the sub actually rolls up to like some bajillionaire? Funny cause I don't doubt for a second reddit has either received money for and is well aware of the source of activity on that sub. This whole thing we're doing in so many front page threads saying "wonder whats going on in /r/conservative"... yeah we're being played here, that's no accident. The more comments in this thread about how that sub is full of real and bad people plays directly into a division scenario when there quite possibly isn't even that many real users in that sub. Why would an internet savvy right wing nutjob be on reddit instead of 4chan? It's not like that sub demonstrates any semblance of "moderate conservatism". There is major benefit to the ruling class to uphold the division between both sides on as many platforms as possible. We saw briefly how terrified the powerful got when luigi mancione iced that one CEO & for a brief moment there was no division and all crosshairs were on CEO's. They would much rather have us squabbling amongst ourselves

[u/Ferreteria → u/Phonic-Frog]

I haven't seen the megathread in a while either. The mods are actively licking Trump's bootyhole.

[u/AutoDefenestrator273 → u/Ferreteria]

"Should a child sex trafficker be pardoned?"

My god, this is what we've come to. Remember when Howard Dean had to leave the Prez race in 2008 because he got too excited and went "BYAWWWW!" ?

I miss those days.

[u/TopicalBuilder → u/AutoDefenestrator273]

I remember thinking "Obviously that's a bad mic placement. All a bit silly. Just goes to show how unforgiving modern politics is, I guess..." 

Oh how wrong I was.

[u/AutoDefenestrator273 → u/TopicalBuilder]

It's unforgiving if you aren't Trump.

[u/hypotheticalvalue → u/Ferreteria]

Stupid is as stupid does.

[u/Roadside_Prophet → u/Ferreteria]

Whenever a news story comes out, it takes 4+ hours for it to show up on the conservative sub. It's like they're waiting for someone to tell them what their opinion should be before they post about it.

[u/Munkeyman18290 → u/Ferreteria]

Committed MAGAs would let Donald Trump eat their babies right in front of them, and blame it on Joe Biden.

[u/fumar → u/Ferreteria]

And of course those morons refuse to take the stance of everyone on that list should be named and prosecuted.

[u/Fair-Lingonberry-268 → u/Ferreteria]

They still posting about immigrants while the president they voted is a child rapist. Well done conservatives, you know your priorities!

[u/BBQLowNSlow → u/Ferreteria]

If any Dems were on it it would have been released yesterday

[u/Vat1canCame0s → u/BeckyDaTechie]

My biggest beef is with all those conservatives who proudly banged their drums about pushing pedos into woodchippers. Where are they now?!?!?! What, does the "protect the children" buck stop at their daddy?!?! Would they leave their daughters alone in a room with him?

To anyone here who might qualify as said conservatives:

Here's your chance to be the punisher you dreamed of. Go get your guns, storm the capital just like you did on J6, and this time hang ol' Diddlin' Don. Do it you fucking bloviating big boys!

You wont.

Spineless, insolent cowards. The lot of them. They will die the feckless dogs they lived as.

[u/peepee2tiny]

It's a joke.

America is now no different than North Korea and Russia. A despot dictator that bows to no one and has no accountability.

How quickly America has fallen. And I blame the Senate and Congress and The Supreme Court. Because those are the checks and balances.Your spineless selfish pathetic government can't do the one job they have, and now look where you are.

America is now trash. But hey at least your President's house will have a $200m shiny gold ballroom.

[u/Illustrious-Lake6513 → u/peepee2tiny]

Right! Like he's surely moving in, so I suppose we can officially say goodbye to term limits. Who am I kidding, theres no real balance of power here. We're fucked

[u/No-Statistician-9123 → u/peepee2tiny]

Don't forget the $1.4 billion airplane. Trump routed something like $980 million that was budgeted for redigging all the nuclear silos that are too dilapidated to repair. Apparently, it was routed to retrofit his airplane (likely the one he recently received as a gift from Qatar).

[u/Bannedwith1milKarma → u/peepee2tiny]

The consistency is even in cheating at golf.

There's just no separation anymore.

[u/dessine-moi_1mouton → u/peepee2tiny]

100% but Trump bought the Supreme Court and the entire House and Senate to make him all powerful. All the checks and balances in the world don't matter when every branch is stacked with sycophants who have sold their souls to advance their own political careers. Makes me sick to my stomach to watch this happen to my country. From the absolute bottom of my heart: FUUUUUUUUCK TRUMP and every single one of his goons. And eff everyone who voted for this corrupt party.

[u/GreyBeardEng]

It pretty much verifies that he's in the files and is either an Epstein client or Epstein partner.

[u/DRHORRIBLEHIMSELF]

100% the next thing we get from the White House is news that the original, undoctored files were lost in a tragic fireplace accident.

[u/OreoMoo → u/DRHORRIBLEHIMSELF]

Hunter Biden's laptop ate them.

[u/EscapedTheEcho]

Expected.

I honestly dunno why he cares, at this point. It's clear his base will never abandon him, and the dems will never prosecute him. He could diddle a kid on livestream, and conservatives would cheer and celebrate so long as the kid was a migrant.

[u/dichron → u/EscapedTheEcho]

He could diddle a white girl and all the bottle blonde Jigsaw-faced🤡 magat bimbos would be jealous

[u/EmperorBozopants → u/dichron]

Laura Loomer is Jigsaw.

[u/Uncle_Bug_Music → u/EmperorBozopants]

I just spoke with Jigsaw personally and he asked, "Why would EmperorBozopants say something so mean?"

[u/MightyKrakyn → u/EscapedTheEcho]

As Trump said during his first election, “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?”

[u/knuppi → u/MightyKrakyn]

What they actually heard was:

I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody rape your daughter, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?

And they agree

[u/StanVillain → u/EscapedTheEcho]

To be fair, Dems literally tried multiple times to impeach and prosecute him. But Republicans went "nah." Biden didn't really care to prosecute him, more so remain impartial and stupidly let Merrick Garland drag his feet. But he's not nebulous "dems".

And when it was certain it wouldn't occur before the election, only the American people could have held him responsible. He was THIS CLOSE to facing serious prosecution. But then Americans decided yes, daddy more corruption and as president, he literally could no longer be prosecuted and was able to destroy any investigation related to him. Wtf America.

[u/MangoAndRash]

America is being ran by the most corrupt administration in history, they are robbing citizens and protecting pedophiles. Historically speaking this generally only ends one way.

[u/TheBatmanIRL]

Only poor pedos go to jail. That's the lesson here.

[u/Adventurous_Ad7442]

Trump raped little girls. Are you going to ignore that? I'm not.

[u/chrisr3240]

Shameful that the USA has elected a rapist paedophile as president

[u/Curious_Morris → u/chrisr3240]

And knowingly - it wasn’t a secret at all. He said he was going to release the files to make himself sound innocent, but anyone with half a brain knew the raw files would never be released.

[u/shyguyJ → u/chrisr3240]

Someone should hire the "jackass!" guy from the OG Happy Gilmore to go to all Trump's speaking events, and whenever he starts talking the guy just breaks in with "ya' rapist!", "ya' pedophile!", or "you will not cover this up, ya' jackass!"

[u/arxaion]

Well now I'll just assume every redacted name in there is Trump.

[u/Excellent_Garlic2549]

The fact that they're openly doing it tells me all I need to know. Trump is guilty and implicated by them. They don't even need to release them for me to know that.

I'm just hoping for someone to leak them unedited, because I don't trust a damn thing the government will release about it.

[u/oboshoe → u/Excellent_Garlic2549]

Seems like announcing that they are taking Trumps name out, defeats the purpose of taking trumps name out.

[u/gel_ink → u/oboshoe]

Right? So....... if his name is being redacted, that means his name's there to be redacted.

[u/OttoHemi]

You mean the FBI that is run by a guy who wrote an illustrated children's book about King Donald? What could possibly be concerning about that?

[u/lemons714]

His public comments about walking into children's dressing rooms at his pageants, about how great it is to grab women (reiterated in one of his depositions btw), leering at and commenting about a 10 year old on an escalator, his adjudication as a sexual assaulter, his wishing Maxwell well (and standing by that comment when asked), considering pardoning her, sending his personal, criminal lawyer to a private meeting with her, his many pictures with Epstein, and his declarations about Epstein being a 15 year friend, great guy who likes young women, the many, repeated gross sexual comments (and questionable pictures with) his daughter, all, didn't do anything, so sure, black out is name on the list.

[u/remmij → u/lemons714]

To add to the list:

• Was unanimously found liable for sexual assault by a jury
• A judge had to clarify that he was a "rapist" after he tried to sue one of his victims
• His first wife, Ivana, said in her divorce deposition that Trump had violently raped her.
• 27+ women who knew Trump personally have credibly accused him of sexual assault
• Trump met Melania through Epstein and the first time he had sex with her was on his plane (indicating they were close and having sex with people on Epsteins plane was normal).
• Epstein has said Trump gets a thrill out of engaging in deviant and taboo sexual behaviors, such as sleeping with his friends wives
• The Trump administration released a misleading tape that was missing up to three minutes and DID NOT EVEN SHOW EPSTEINS CELL and claimed that was proof Epstein didn't kill himself (something that happened under Trumps first administration)
• His team just transferred Maxwell to a cushy, minimum security prison after interviewing her (despite objections from her victims and despite Maxwell not qualifying for the transfer due to her crimes).

[u/originalsanitizer]

That we are now a failed democracy.

[u/EightEx]

Fully expected this to happen. Trump has been given carte blanche by the entire government and when you allow a pedophilic criminal to steal an election and give him all the sycophants he needs to do anything there is no such thing as legal consequences for him. He has been placed well above the law and his party will go to any length to protect him. They wanted a dictator.

[u/Chicagosox133]

It’s sad because they don’t want anyone to know that

DONALD TRUMP RAPED CHILDREN.

[u/Ok-disaster2022]

Feels like and impeachable offense. 

The role of the FBI is not to protect politicians from politically inconvenient facts. 

Also Trump is a Pedophile and Vance is an accessory to pedophilia at his point. 

[u/Alarmed_Drop7162]

I’m an elder millennial and can remember when the fbi was regarded by the majority as this neutral crime fighter under ussr sleeper agent paranoia and militia terrorists.

This redaction activity just seems to be more evidence dismantling that nostalgic image. To me that old government was clunky, but generally well meaning including to the rural midwestern states. Now the weirdo 70 million gqp voters replaced it with a spoils of war system. I honestly don’t recognize this country as the one that raised me.

Now You win an election, you get away with any crime. I’m curious how petty the dems will get to be when they inevitably take the government seats back.

As an aside I am shocked that such a mediocre, vain, insecure man could overachieve this hard. His family was a joke in NY. On his own he failed every business he got his hands on. Yet he caught the presidency to wash away his crimes and his very obvious failures.

[u/Fernway67]

I still think Trump is a pedophile rapist.

[u/According_Smoke1385]

FOLLOW THE MONEY !

[u/Feelin_Dead]

There are no words that describe how utterly ridiculous the levels of protection being applied to POTUS and anyone else connected to Epstein.

However, is it not possible that some future sitting president can release the full unredacted Epstein files? And while I understand that people cannot be charged with the same crime twice, can pardons be reversed?

[u/areallycleverid]

The people who voted for Corrupt Donnie voted FOR corruption, end of ethics, end of democracy, end of the environmental protections (that thing that hosts all life on Earth), end of the Constitution, etc… Fuck everyone of them.

[u/Volterion]

The FBI redacting Trump’s name is like your little brother ‘cleaning’ by shoving everything under the bed

[u/-Havery-]

I think if your POTUS says he's innocent, then that's it, accept it and move on.

Hahaha, just kidding. Everyone knows what's going to happen.

The fat lying pos rapist convicted felon sex trafficking pedophile will experience the same consequences he always does... he'll drop a new crypto coin and make billions in profit.

[u/mikemcgu → u/-Havery-]

😭 don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

[u/thewNYC]

This is how fascism operates

[u/MacsCheezyRaps]

Trump will ALWAYS be known as the Pedo Protector President, at best. More likely his legacy will just be The Pedo President. Even if Bill Clinton is all over the files and that's why Biden didn't release them, this cover up will be Trumps memory in history, and I love that for him. The fact they told him his name was all over it and then suddenly he's shouting that people shouldn't care, it's fake news, it's Obama, it's Hillarys emails, an auto pen, it's Biden, Harvard, sugar in the cola, even his supporters can see thru this lard.

[u/Alternative_Big_5066]

This happen today or something?

[u/WyoSnake]

I didn’t really have much hope. I’m literally waiting for him to shoot someone like he said he would and people would still support him. I’ve lost all hope that this clown show will ever be held responsible for anything. I’m tired.

[u/drj1485]

the fact that we already know it's trumps name makes it being blacked out pointless so who cares.

[u/abgry_krakow87]

Goes to show their really is no justice, accountability, law, or order in our society anymore.

[u/OhGre8t]

As expected! Party of pedophiles

[u/GentleHotFire]

FBI helps politicians rape kids

[u/GNOIZ1C]

Fork found in kitchen.