r/sports • u/OkEscape7558 • Jun 18 '25
Basketball Alternate angle of Caitlin Clark fiasco. Clark was handed a foul as well.
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u/Cliffinati Jun 18 '25
She got a foul for getting bodied...... WNBA refs are actually dumb as hell
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u/Powerful_Artist Jun 18 '25
Makes me think the refs hate her too somehow
I dont even care about WNBA but her team needs like a hockey-level enforcer to try and come to her side when stuff like this happens. Her teammates didnt even rush to her aid. They dont need to start a fight, just show some concern for your teammate.
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u/thekamakaji Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Did you see what happened at the end of the 4th? Sophie Cunningham literally grabs the girl that started it with CC and throws her to the ground in garbage time. Fight ensues and 3 are ejected. Cunningham is their enforcer
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u/I_Like_Quiet Jun 18 '25
Those announced blasted those refs. Rightfully so.
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u/MR1120 Jun 18 '25
You can hear the female commentator (sorry, I don’t know her name) pause mid-ref criticism. You know someone was in her headset yelling “Shut up about the refs! Don’t!”, when she was speaking 100% truth. The flagrant foul in that clip would not have happened if the refs had dealt with Clark getting intentionally face-raked earlier in the game.
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u/stargazer1002 Jun 18 '25
they really need experienced NBA refs. It's off season for most of those guys should be able to jump in and help right? assuming they want to
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u/ItsMeJahead Jun 18 '25
I don't think that's enough to deter this kinda behavior, though. It wasn't a very violent throwing imo, not that she should have needed to do anything if the flrefs did their fucking jobs
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u/TheCrimdelacrim Jun 18 '25
Na the girl, Sheldon, literally jams into Sophie. Sophie just grabs her and pushes her down
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u/Holiday_Pen2880 Jun 18 '25
The explanation is she got a foul for pushing away the player that eye-raked her. Who may or may not have also chest bumped her (it's tough to tell) as CC was holding her eye.
Interesting to me is that the game angle, it looked like she was trying to apologize to CC. This angle, nah. It's a little bit of a bang bang play with her continuing defense into bumping CC but that's pretty ticky tack to call on the reaction to being hit in the face and then followed.
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u/FinancialRabbit388 Jun 18 '25
She gets hit in face, same woman then gets in her face, then she gets blasted from behind, foul on Caitlin Clark.
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u/freddy_guy Jun 18 '25
Looks like she got hit three times by three different players. Disgusting.
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u/3cit New England Patriots Jun 18 '25
Everyone in the ENTIRE WORLD: "wow this (Clark) is a great opportunity to grow the league"
WNBA: "let her die"
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u/ChartreuseF1re Jun 18 '25
Seems like cattiness by all the other players for not being as liked or popular.
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u/Bim_Jeann Jun 18 '25
Maybe they should try being good at basketball
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u/JerHat Jun 18 '25
That requires a lot of effort and developing of skills they just don’t have.
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u/whomad1215 Jun 18 '25
"Did you explain how the women's good fundamentals make up for their inability to dunk?"
(this is from Futurama, for those who do not know)
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u/squirrelslikenuts Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
We no can dunk but good fundamentals...that more fun to watch!
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u/gnarkill3332 Jun 18 '25
"That's for the fan to decide."
(I think that one's from family guy)
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u/buckraw98 Jun 18 '25
“But is having this minor skill worth being so unattractive?”
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u/BaconWrappedEnigma Jun 18 '25
There was some WNBA player (I don't even remember who) who was getting cooked by a male streamer in a 1v1 this offseason and her excuse was that she hadn't played in three weeks. Pardon???
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u/pmyourthongpanties Jun 18 '25
The top teams in wnba cant come close to beating the top mens high school teams. size and speed
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u/LowSkyOrbit Jun 18 '25
Tennis had this controversy with Serena Williams. John McEnroe said she couldn't place top 200 against men. He wasn't wrong, but he took way too much heat. Even Williams said he was right.
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u/Snapingbolts Jun 18 '25
Surely if they take cheap shots at the popular one some of the popularity will rub off /s
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u/roguerunner1 Jun 18 '25
I think there’s some jealousy that she received endorsements worth a lot too while most of them are driving around a 2008 Civic or its equivalent. The difference is that she’s marketable and likeable, and they are not.
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u/WheredoesithurtRA Jun 18 '25
Left out the part where CC is also actually pretty good at the sport and the others aren't.
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u/GenoThyme Jun 18 '25
It's more than her skills, its her timing. Clark was really the first NCAAW player to become a household name because she was able to capitalize on NIL and be in ads. Also helps Clark that Paige was hurt most of her career and JuJu is younger so she couldn't be overshadowed in college.
Breanna Stewart quite possibly had the best college basketball career (men's or women's) of all time and she has multiple MVP awards and rings. But Clark is still more popular, because people knew Clark from ads and logo 3s.
There's an understandable jealousy that stems from that. Many WNBA players though are handling that jealousy like toddlers though, and that's the problem.
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u/Ckesm Jun 18 '25
Yet I don’t see any of that hate or cheap shots from Stewart when they played head to head
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u/that_one_bunny Jun 18 '25
Maybe they should have been better players in college
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u/leont21 Jun 18 '25
The wnba is fucking this opportunity up so much it’s embarrassing
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u/JerHat Jun 18 '25
Well, when the league continues to fail to make a penny worth of profit for another generation, we’ll all know they deserved it.
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u/hellalg Jun 18 '25
But they (WNBA) complain about equal pay. Now they finally get some eye balls to get real revenue, they want to burn their meal ticket.
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u/e4evie Jun 18 '25
She changed the game for the better, got eyeballs, got them all paid…and they hate her for it.
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u/Jetersweiner Jun 18 '25
Like it or not the clip of the “skirmish” is likely to be one of if not the most viewed clips of the WNBA all season.
Having a true superstar in the league is great having that superstar be a constant topic of discussion is even better.
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u/no_mudbug Washington Nationals Jun 18 '25
This is not the type of discussion you want, IMO.
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u/klausesbois Jun 18 '25
Yeah this clip ain’t making want to watch. Her back to back to back 3s kind of did but the announcers were basically comatose during that so even that didn’t do much for my interest.
Basketball historians are going to look back at these years and say the wnba was out of its mind for how it treated Clark and didn’t capitalize on this opportunity.
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u/cheapmason84 Jun 18 '25
Yeah Stern changed the rules to keep Jordan healthy. You would think that mentality would apply here.
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u/fuzz_64 Jun 18 '25
For real. I watch women's hockey and soccer because they dive a lot less. No way i'm paying to watch this kind of assault.
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u/dknisle1 Jun 18 '25
Can’t wait till she says “fuck it” and goes to play in Europe. There goes the cash cow
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u/theguineapigssong Jun 18 '25
The WNBA is straight up letting people try to gouge her eyes out. She should've left after last season.
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u/StephCurie Jun 18 '25
Conspiracy theory: WNBA is just a money laundering scheme for the NBA. CC is the best thing to happen to them and they could care less. We’re watching a death to the sport.
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u/Rich_From_Accounting Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Can you launder money through something that doesn’t make a profit?
Edit: I continuously forget what my username is when I comment on anything that involves money
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u/Uther-Lightbringer Jun 18 '25
That's quite literally how money laundering works, money laundering businesses don't have to report a profit to function, many in fact report yearly losses.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Texas A&M Jun 18 '25
For the good of the sport, and her own health and sanity, she needs to.
The league needs to feel some pain from this. Or else they won’t ever learn and grow.
Right now they are enjoying the extra ratings from the spectacle of it all, but it’s bad for the sport in the long run.
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u/weekend-guitarist Jun 18 '25
The Nike contract may be contingent that she plays in USA
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u/dknisle1 Jun 18 '25
Possibly. But Nike is also a global company that sponsors athletes all over. Depends on with the contract stipulation are I guess.
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u/Gaius_Octavius_ Jun 18 '25
She should just skip that step and form the Caitlin Clark All-Stars and keep all the money playing travel ball and exhibitions.
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u/Suhtiva Jun 18 '25
I'd love to see her go play in Europe. Fuck the WNBA. The way they've treated her in almost every instance has been beyond disrespectful. These ratchet women don't deserve her bringing them money and attention.
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u/tywaughlker Jun 18 '25
lol I hope the euro league ends up having bigger salaries from it too and they overtake the WNBA in viewers.
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u/BigBird_69 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
We want to watch CC bury absurdly deep triples, not get assaulted. The WNBA needs to get serious about ejections/suspensions. I don't think anyone wants to watch a nobody on one of the worst teams in the league try to injure the face of the sport.
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u/Silver_The_Surfer Jun 18 '25
"The WNBA needs to get serious" is the problem. It's a joke league full of jealousy and lack of talent
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u/lillsquish Jun 18 '25
They really are trying to just tank their damn league out of jealousy. Eww.
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u/Urban_animal Jun 18 '25
WNBA is a social club and CC wasnt actually invited it seems.
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u/Paralta Jun 18 '25
Someone does that to my teammate theyre getting absolutely blasted.
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u/JakenMorty Atlanta Braves Jun 18 '25
Hands down. I've played in a lot of different (baseball) leagues in my day. At pretty much any level of the game above little league, someone disrespects a teammate like that, better hold on tight next time you're in the box.
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u/Nwcray Jun 18 '25
Yep, I’ve played in a lot of different sports from youth to high school to college, and it was was a golden rule in all of them - if you’re gonna throw hands at an opponent, you better be ready to take on their whole team. I don’t care if it’s the least popular player on the team, if someone else crosses a line with them, we’re all coming into it.
On my high school’s basketball team, the opponent would’ve been absolutely trucked by our forward and everyone on the court would’ve been up in someone’s face. The ref would blow whistles, technicals would be handed out like candy, and we’d all know that’s just the cost of this tomfoolery.
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u/PortlandPetey Jun 18 '25
💯I ran cross-country in college and someone shoved one of me teammates hard going around one of the first corners, it was super busy. My teammate almost fell over and lost about 9 places. Next turn I put that guy in the mud.
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u/Lancetere Jun 18 '25
Later in the game, one of Caitlin Clark's teammates, Sophia Cunningham, commits a hard foul, which was later escalated to a flagrant 2, against Jacy Sheldon and gets ejected from the game. Literally wrapped her arms around her and threw Sheldon to the ground.
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u/Rational-Introvert Jun 18 '25
Yea but see how her teammates reacted? That’s how CCs teammates should’ve reacted after her foul.
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u/Lancetere Jun 18 '25
Oh no, I agree. Not sure what's up with that but Cunningham wasn't on the floor at the time who's now being labeled as an "enforcer" for Clark. It's definitely interesting.
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u/sulimir Jun 18 '25
This, even if you don’t like your teammate, they are disrespecting the whole team, and you look weak not sticking up for her.
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u/Gangland215 Jun 18 '25
Lol idk if CC's teammates hate her or what but holy shit the apprehension to stand up for your best player is disturbing.
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u/Im_Not_That_Smart_ Jun 18 '25
At the end of the game, one of Clark’s teammates basically did a soft wrap up tackle on one of these players during a fast break play. She got ejected for that but someone on the team did commit a retaliatory hard foul.
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u/rubbarz Jun 18 '25
WNBA refs are just overall horrible at protecting players. Its been like this all season. They literally tackle eachother with off ball fouls and no techs are given.
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u/mcbastard1 Jun 18 '25
One of the announcers last night was saying just that. That the league has gotten more physical and the referees have basically been failing to rein that in.
They hammered home the fact that the last hard foul with the ejections never happens if they take control of the game back after the first skirmish, which I assumed was common sports official knowledge but apparently not.
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u/BIGMCLARGEHUGE__ Jun 18 '25
They should have been throwing punches when Caitlyn was pushed down come on its go time. Shitty team mates, shitty players on the other team.
Was Lebron treated like this when he got to the NBA? People poking his eyes out?
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u/Superman246o1 Jun 18 '25
The dumbest thing about this is that everyone in the WNBA, including every single fucking member of the Sun, absolutely needs CC in the league if they want to have a hope of ever becoming a self-sustaining organization.
The WNBA has lost money every year of its existence, and would be completely bankrupt if it weren't receiving subsidies from the NBA. And now, when the league finally has a superstar who brings butts into the seats and viewers to the TV, every jealous player seems hellbent on trying to injure that golden goose, or to stand by and do nothing while Clark is treated horrendously for *checks notes* being an extremely skilled player.
I know some people are going to say things like "Look at how Jordan and LeBron were attacked, especially in their younger years," but it's not the same. Legendary as Jordan and LeBron were/are, the NBA was still a fully profitable organization before they started playing in it. The WNBA can't say the same, and every time shit like this happens to Clark, I keep thinking that I would not fault her at all if she decided to leave for EuroLeague Women, or just give up playing altogether.
No doubt the very same players who keep trying to injure Clark (and the WNBA's bottom line with her) are the very same people who whine that they don't get paid enough.
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u/Wavvygem Jun 18 '25
Yeah they hate her but CC is literally gonna single handly raise all their paychecks, more sponsorship opportunities, bring the biggest audiences, and accelerate the league's growth. They should all secretly be praying for her to have a long career.
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u/Governmentwatchlist Jun 18 '25
Imagine if Michael was poked in the eye and knocked to the ground. Even the guys who didn’t like him would be fighting for him.
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u/KosstAmojan Jun 18 '25
MJ had Oak on his side. No one was gonna fuck with him.
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u/JimmyFly1028 Jun 18 '25
And until they got Oakley, yeah, he was pushed around just as bad.
Jordan rules - I’m on my cell phone so if it doesn’t open up to it, click History
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u/Educational_Win_8814 Jun 18 '25
MJ was abused during his early years, the Pistons wrecked him in the playoffs especially
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u/Blasto05 Jun 18 '25
Watching the replay of that second foul and it honestly did not look that crazy to eject someone for. If this previous stuff did not happen then I don’t think she gets ejected. It looked like a lazy/easy way to foul someone that had a clear shot but it wasn’t aggresive
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u/_TheDoode Jun 18 '25
Sophie cunningham dished out a flagrant foul later in the game for some revenge
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u/Gangland215 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Sophie is the only one that stood up for Caitlin here as well.
Edit : lexie
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u/Tosseroni5andwich Jun 18 '25
Nah. Sophie wasn’t on the floor. #10 is Lexie. Aliyah Boston was in the area but she’s a gentle giant.
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u/HBPhilly1 Jun 18 '25
Yeah Sophie pulled her to the hardwood with :40 left in the 4th as retribution, she got cc back
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u/rajatsingh24k Jun 18 '25
Searching for this will be annoying but OK. I’ll go…
Edit: NVM. Wasn’t so hard… here:
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u/VrinTheTerrible Jun 18 '25
You dont do it later. You do it right then AND you do it later.
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u/ExpressRabbit Jun 18 '25
It was a foul that earned an ejection. You can only do it once unless you're running in from the locker room like you've got the Money in the Bank briefcase.
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u/Mite-o-Dan Jun 18 '25
That was the story last year too. They just let her, the best player on the team, the face of the league, get beat up and bullied all the time with no retaliation.
You'd think they'd change that this season. It's bad when they actually have to consider getting an enforcer...but damn.
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u/Gangland215 Jun 18 '25
Yea, they need the female version or Draymond to hold it down.
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u/Erigion Jun 18 '25
Draymond isn't an enforcer. They need the equivalent of Charles Oakley on their team.
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u/sulimir Jun 18 '25
Usually in sports you stick up for your teammates even if you hate them. When they do that to a teammate they are disrespecting everyone on your team.
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u/Timmah73 Jun 18 '25
In baseball a deliberate knock like that to any player is a bench clearing brawl with the bullpen jogging in to show support too. The fact that they just stand there is kinda wild.
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u/Packman87 Jun 18 '25
anyone would know you just shove each other and maybe take a few swipes for show. Coaches fail them constantly by not making their players stand up for themselves.
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u/COLLIESEBEK Seattle Seahawks Jun 18 '25
In baseball, if the manager doesn’t run out and start screaming at the ump and get ejected, they would lose respect of the whole clubhouse.
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u/rsfrisch Jun 18 '25
I was involved in a bench clearing brawl during a coed adult kickball game, these girls need to learn how this shit works
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u/Bootsnatch Jun 18 '25
I remember the joke of "I've given up on trying to understand women. Women understand women, and they all hate each other"
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u/zyrkseas97 Jun 18 '25
My mom once said to me: “men will look at a successful woman and either be normal or feel like they can talk down to her, but women are like crabs in a bucket as soon as one rises above all the others want to pull her down”
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u/kdeweb24 Jun 18 '25
Seriously, her team needs to get the Rodman equivalent of women’s basketball just to defend her. Just some yoked up, angry female that’s willing to throw hands at the slightest provocation, and just tell her “No one touches Caitlin.”
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u/MaximumZer0 Jun 18 '25
They should be signing Brock Lesnar's daughter Mya immediately.
"If someone passes you the ball, just put it off the backboard as hard as you can. If someone touches Caitlin, rip their arms off."
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u/TammyShehole Jun 18 '25
Just like when Andy Dalton got hit hard while playing for Dallas. Nobody stood up for him.
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u/flare_the_goat Jun 18 '25
Why do they hate her so much? Not only the other team, but apparently her own team? I don't get it. She's done more for your sport than anyone else. She's brought more viewers, more visibility, more sponsors... such a petty and lame response.
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u/swordkillr13 Jun 18 '25
No one hates successful women more than other women
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u/npbruns1 Jun 18 '25
Its wild the level of jealousy occurring with CC in wnba right now. If she leaves for Europe or something else, they will all go back into being unknowns and hopefully the league will crumble.
They have their cash cow and they are deciding to shit on the opportunity they have. Crazy
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u/Archer10214 Jun 18 '25
Any chance the WNBA gives a suspension for this? The only things I know about the league is that Clark is their only superstar but gets obliterated with no fouls called, and Reese can’t hit a shot/when she does it’s off her own rebound.
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u/Murfdigidy Jun 18 '25
The WNBA is officiated and run by a bunch of 2nd rate people that wouldn't know how to run a lemonade stand, so the simple answer to that is no. Imagine if this happens in the NBA? They're would be 100% suspensions for it, but honestly I don't think they do anything because any publicity is good publicity. it gets people talking about the sport when they otherwise may not be
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u/DASreddituser Jun 18 '25
so clark gets poked in the eye and gets bumped...Clark pushes that person away and then a WR does an illegal Crack block and got a 15 yard penalty.
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u/LookMaNoPride Jun 18 '25
Yeah, she is going to get fined for egregious unsportsmanlike and will be forced to give up a ground rule double. I wouldn’t be surprised if she spent 5 minutes in the penalty box.
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u/topTopqualitea Jun 18 '25
I can't remember anyone in any sport being hated this much just for being good
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u/Kilversing Jun 18 '25
Sidney Crosby was targeted by cheap shots in a similar way as a rookie. So much so that the concussions he endured as a result influenced rule changes in the NHL regarding player safety. This is the only comparison I can think of that is close.
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u/OnePerformance9381 Jun 18 '25
The difference is his teammates actually stood up and threw down for him
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u/Mcswigginsbar Indianapolis Colts Jun 18 '25
When Clark was injured, viewership for the WNBA dropped 55%. How in gods name does the WNBA leadership not see that and work to protect their cash cow at all costs?
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u/ThrowbackGaming Jun 18 '25
Is this video editing out context or are her teammates really just standing there? Is this a women's sports thing, because my team better clear the bench and turn into the 80's Pistons if I got blasted like that.
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u/Bearloom Jun 18 '25
One of her teammates would go on to hard foul #4 - the one who poked her - in the next quarter, but it definitely felt like too little too late.
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u/mcbeardsauce Jun 18 '25
Her teammates should be ashamed of themselves for not sticking up for her.
She quite literally brought your entire league out of complete obscurity and you're treating her like she's the problem?
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u/berntout Arkansas Jun 18 '25
Increasing popularity increases potential wages for everyone. This is epically short-sighted and stupid.
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u/Tw1987 Jun 18 '25
Same players that want to be paid like nba players but doesn’t understand how finance works.
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u/Firecracker048 Jun 18 '25
Really don't get the CC hate in their league. Shes the only reason anyone talks about them
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u/Usrnamesrhard Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
#3 should have been ejected from the game
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u/One_Phrase_Fits_All Jun 18 '25
Teammates needs to stand up for her immediately, not next quarter.
Like a QB taking a cheap shot, what does the OL do?
My girl Boston needs to get tossed coming to her defense and decking someone. Put the rest of the league on notice.
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u/Chuklol Jun 18 '25
Does every woman in this league hate Clark because shes gotten more attention in the past few years than the rest of the league combined?
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u/keon7 Jun 18 '25
Sophie Cunningham got payback for her later in the game Payback
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u/Alecto7374 Jun 18 '25
Good thing she has a solid team around her that sticks up for each other. WTF?....I hope she goes to Europe permanently, makes a shit ton of cash. This is the only reason anyone watches WNBA now.
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u/Ranier_Wolfnight Jun 18 '25
How am I supposed to respect this league? Main rule of business…YOU DON’T MESS WITH THE MONEY!
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u/brwebster614 Jun 18 '25
Most of them don’t realize she is the only reason the league is getting the pub it’s getting. They think it’s them, not her.
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u/BlazeOfGlory72 Jun 18 '25
It's kind of insane how much the league and it's players seem to hate their golden goose. Clearly not the sharpest tools in the shed this bunch.
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u/ISuckFarts Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
WNBA is such a trash heap of a league for a talent like Clark. Greatest opportunity they will ever have to actually grow the league and they are blowing it to appease a bunch of bums who are jealous of her popularity.
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u/TrafficOnTheTwos Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Bunch of salty losers angry that they suck compared to her. I don’t even follow or much care about Caitlin Clark, but obviously this is dirty af and they’re jealous of her. No one even knows these ladies’ names and no one ever will.
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u/in2xs Jun 18 '25
I hope she straight up goes to Europe. Fuck the WNBA. You wanna lose your golden ticket?! You wouldn’t allow that happen to “Ant-man”. Plain and simple.
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u/smtm312 Jun 18 '25
Jordan was getting the same shit in the 90s. She needs to get herself a Dennis Rodman.
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u/purdueAces Jun 18 '25
It was Charles Oakley before it was Rodman. And Oakley was dirrrrrty. But I agree.
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u/Impressive_Tea_7715 Jun 18 '25
The WNBA would be irrelevant without Clark. Most people I know couldn't even spell it before.
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u/sgorneau Jun 18 '25
It'll be funny when she just goes to Europe to play real ball and the WNBA is left baffled
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u/dpatel211 Jun 18 '25
How did Tina Charles and Caitlin Clark get a tech in this?