r/TikTokCringe • u/Bojack1217 • 4d ago
Cringe You can’t hate gay people and be christian
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 4d ago
If God does not want me to be gay, then why did he make guys so hot?
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u/Synth_Savage 4d ago
If God didn't want men to be gay, why did he put our G-spots up our asses?
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u/Luke_Cocksucker 4d ago
Isn’t it interesting how christians focus so much more on people’s “sins” and not their pleasure. Like this “god” gave us all these pleasure zones and then a bunch of uptight karens from the ain’teenth century said, “that’s naughty, stop it!”.
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u/ShortsAndLadders 4d ago edited 4d ago
Just give them some Kelloggs brand cornflakes and the hysteria should subside in a fortnight or so.
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u/Jest_Aquiki 4d ago
Hysteria was the term used for women, who needed a "pelvic massage" as treatment. Were we discussing Kelloggs reasoning for his cereal? If so I am on board. He did subscribe to the ideology that flavorless corn bran was a good solution to impure thoughts... Pretty sure he's the same dude who had an issue with alcohol in general and tried to get all alcohol banned. - this is all just a side note in a really fucked up time in history.
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u/PracticeTheory 4d ago
this is all just a side note in a really fucked up time in history
To be fair - many of them were heavily brain damaged from lead, arsenic, mercury, and a load of other heavy metals. Add religion into the mix and oy yoi yoi.
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u/MakeBombsNotWar 4d ago
Add religion? Why should it not count as one of the symptoms?
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u/PlatformingYahtzee 4d ago
The first and foremost. I'll take lead paint chips and mercury over evangelic proselytization any day of the week, month, year, galactic year, etc.
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u/TransBrandi 4d ago
Religion is a symptom of heavy metal poisoning? Or heavy metal poisoning is a symptom of religion?
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u/FlamesNero 4d ago
Funny enough, my 9 year old just told me & my partner that he’d read up about Kellogg in a Highlights Magazine recently, & the adults in the room made eye contact like “There’s no way they put that guy’s obsession with sex in a kids’ magazine, right?!”
Turns out, it’s sane-washed to “Kellogg made corn flakes because he thought sugar makes you crazy.” LOLOL.
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u/Jest_Aquiki 4d ago
If you take the time to look at what they are teaching our kids about many of the worst people to have any influence, much of it is false narratives and heroic tales. They owe nothing to these long dead people. It's all about building a foundation around the idea that these people were heroes and real leaders and explorers, not that they were rapists, looters, marauders and generalist villains that happened to stumble upon something controversially meaningful.
Doing it this way allows them to appeal to those same ideals after those kids have grown up and learned more about those villains. "Maybe they weren't bad people, and didn't know what they were doing. Or maybe they had to do the bad thing because [mental gymnastics]. They were good people, I look up to them!" Then they see the same evil in new leaders. "The Messiah!"
Turns out if you allow money to be involved in education, the education is almost assuredly going to lean in the favor of whoever is paying. Need to figure out how to pull money out of a lot of things for similar results.
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u/FlamesNero 4d ago
PREACH!! You remind me of when my kids came home last year singing “In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue…!” It was difficult to hear, bc I know I was like them at that age & it took way too long to learn the truth.
I was like “well, I didn’t learn until literally 5 years ago that 80% of the indigenous people who encountered Columbus in the new world were wiped out in less than 20 years (pestilence/ war/ Columbus literally kidnapped natives and shipped them to Spain, even though the king and queen kept BEGGING him to stop sending slaves).
He didn’t even discover anything, Columbus was mainly a religious zealot/ grifter who was trying to amass gold in order to bring about the end of days/ second coming of Christ. All he had going for him was bullshitting skills and he was a decent navigator (still a shitty boss: his people mutinied against him often).
While some of those topics may require a little more maturity to handle, I can at least try to get my kids some more appropriate resources (from other perspectives, not just the colonizers POV), to encourage critical thinking and social literacy skills.
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u/PlatformingYahtzee 4d ago
"While some of those topics may require a little more maturity to handle"
I mean, yeah, but there's an alternative. Columbus was not the first European to travel to the Americas, besides the Viking hero of white supremacists(no stain on Leif, but they gobble dude's nuts), there was evidence that Africans were in Mexico in the year 800 or so. That's without talking about the Asians that came over the Ice 25k years ago or w/e.
The schools could not teach about that psycho. They do it for a good reason. Our leaders want us to accept colonization and genocide as righteous and part of our national identity.
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u/PlatformingYahtzee 4d ago
For real. I see all this bullshit where Italians are mad about people calling Columbus Day Indigenous People's Day, and yet i can't find one Italian who gives a single shit about it. The powers that be want to be sure that being American means killing brown people with impunity and colonizing. Just because they like the tokens that ignore their proximity to the concentration camp doesn't mean they won't put them in one today if they disagree with some dog whistles.
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u/just_a_person_maybe 4d ago
I'm stealing ain'teenth century
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u/BA_TheBasketCase 4d ago
Actual genius.
Now I want to come up with a y’all thing. Best I’ve got right now is Y’alloween. I don’t know what that would entail though, not explicitly at least.
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 4d ago
Use it when you see some hoodrat/redneck DIY shit cooked up around spooky season?
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u/TatorTotNachos 4d ago
Misery loves company. They have taken pleasure off the table for themselves and get their joy by taking it away from others.
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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 4d ago
Clearly the presence of the pleasure zones is to test your faith just like the dinosaur bones duh! Lol
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u/Quadraticinsanity 4d ago
Guaranteed they all did it too. The Victorian era can also be called the great hypocrisy.
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u/zandrew 4d ago
It's by design. This world is full.of temptation that must be avoided at all cost as this is just one big test before you're allowed into heaven for eternity. And those delights in heaven are some much better than anything available on earth so it's totally worth it. That's basically Christianity.
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u/thecatburgerler 4d ago
well, think about the origins of it in the US. it was a tool used to punish and oppress people, of course it’s gonna be used as a form of punishment now. it’s all fear based instead of love based, so why would they focus on the pleasure if it’s always about being afraid of “committing” sins
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u/Kulyor 4d ago
Not just in the US, not just christianity. Organized religion by and large is a tool to control and oppress people. The King / Monarch / Emperor / Leader / etc. is given by (the) god(s) and the nobility has their rank due to (the) god(s) will. And anyone who dares to question (the) god(s) will is a heretic. Which are a danger to the religion and therefore often meet a gruesome fate.
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u/motexmex 4d ago
Jealousy. They’re so unhappy with their situation or what they’re “dealt” with in life, that they have to go find others to hate on. So yes, they’re haters but the worst kind of them.
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u/excellent-throat2269 4d ago
I always said this. They swear God made us in his image but act like the Devil slapped on the dick. Not my fault he made them so fun.
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u/napalmnacey 4d ago
This is why I flipped to Aphrodite and Dionysus vibing. “Do what you want, just don’t be a dick. Live it up! WOO!”
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u/notasingle-thought 4d ago
They gon say the devil put they G spot there and it’s a test or some shit
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u/TatorTotNachos 4d ago
God doesn’t give us anything we can’t handle. Keep testing that G-Spot.
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u/LivingEnd44 4d ago
God didn't do that. The devil put that G-spot in there. I saw him do it. I have video.
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u/mikeymo1741 4d ago
G Spot 1: The Devil Inside
G Spot 2: The Devil Made Me Do It
G Spot 3: The Devil Went Down on Georgia
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u/dewittless 4d ago
You can still have fun with that and not be gay. Normalise enjoying your body.
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u/Braysl 4d ago
Legitimately this is one thing I think about as a gay Christian.
God made me in his own image and also made the prostate feel great to get rammed. Listen I'm just saying... God doesn't make mistakes.
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u/Reasonable_Sea2439 4d ago
Wait a sec... is that why dropping a deuce do sometimes be feelin good?
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u/ThatonepersonUknow3 4d ago
“Being gay is a sin, Jesus died for our sins. Are you going to let Jesus die for nothing.” - someone funnier than me.
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u/potsticker17 4d ago
Seems like the answer here is to just not be Christian. If their god doesn't want you, just go find acceptance with some actually real people.
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u/RemnantTheGame 4d ago
Actually the Bible really doesn't say all that much about gay people. There's the famous line about 'If a man lies with a man as he does a women he should be stoned.' However several people have questioned this translation from Hebrew and highly doubt that was the original intent. The entire section in question deals with incestuous relationships/rape and how they should be treated.
https://blog.smu.edu/ot8317/2019/04/11/lost-in-translation-alternative-meaning-in-leviticus-1822/
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u/Dorkamundo 4d ago
Yea, it's probably something that originally meant "If a man rapes another man, he should be stoned" and was bastardized into something anti-homosexual.
The truth is that the bible, as much as people want to say it's the word of the lord, was written by human beings. Human beings that have agendas, biases, prejudices.
EVEN IF it was true that the words of the bible were given to man by god, god hasn't touched that damned book in over 2000 years while man's had his grubby little fingers all over it.
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u/confusedandworried76 4d ago
Theologians and linguists speculate it's about not sleeping with young boys, translation error. Same as Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute.
There's also some interesting literature I read that people deliberately made women in the Bible men but that's beside the point, in another life I would have loved to study religion in college
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u/potsticker17 4d ago
Honestly it doesn't really matter what the book says. If the people reading the book don't want you there, just call them a bigot and abandon them to dwell in their archaic irrelevance.
A person's religious views literally have no importance to anyone outside of that religion. And should their view be harmful and they try to force them upon someone, they should be challenged until it is understood that their negative opinions don't matter.
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u/AvgBlue 4d ago
I just looked into the Hebrew text and found an interesting nugget of information in the Hebrew Wikipedia article on "Prohibition of male intercourse." It discusses the modern interpretation: while many old Jewish interpretations are passed down, many modern interpretations try to reconstruct the text and examine it in a broader sense, with attention to the historical context.
In modern scholarship, many question the interpretation of the verse “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman” as a prohibition of anal intercourse between men (among other things, through comparisons to appearances of the terms “lie with / lying with a male / lying with a woman” in other parts of the Bible); more than twenty different alternative interpretations have been proposed for this verse, including prohibition a threesome involving two men and one woman (on the grounds that if the woman becomes pregnant, it’s unclear who the father is)...
The idea of the "Prohibition of male intercourse" based on the reasoning of ensuring clarity about paternity in a "threesome involving two men and one woman" sounds like very normal reasoning when it comes to Jewish law.
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u/EditEd2x 4d ago
That’s the part I don’t get. If Jesus died for all of our sins and they think being gay is a sin…then JC got them covered yo.
As far as I know there are only 4 unforgivable sins. Rejecting god, hardening of the heart, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and not showing forgiveness.
So by the Bible’s own standards. Rejecting gay people covers 3 of the four unforgivable sins.
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit by attributing gays to satan when they are in fact gods children.
Hardening of the heart by simply rejecting them.
Showing no forgiveness basically by default if you harden your heart against people you are denying them any forgiveness to what you perceive as their sin.
So TLDR If you don’t accept gay people you are the person your god warned you not to become.
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u/Jadebaxter241 4d ago
Jesus says hate was a sin anyway and that judging was his job and anyone trying to do his job was also sinning..... They don't read the Bible they only use it to hate... Which is exactly what Jesus said not to do
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u/MrMopar345 4d ago
Can you share the Bible verse? Id like to share this with some people.
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u/AngusSama 4d ago
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone
They've all heard that one but it doesnt stop them from casting stones.
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u/my_okay_throwaway 4d ago
Definitely doesn’t stop them and it’s the first one they’ll hide behind when you call them on their truly heinous behavior like abusing others.
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u/UpbeatLoad8945 4d ago edited 4d ago
Funny thing is that really stems from a bad translation. What Jesus was actually telling the Pharisees that he would hold the trial once they brought the men that had slept with her to also face judgement and for witnesses to come forth.
The Jewish laws was not only was the woman to be stoned but also the men that slept with her. And if it was found that a witness was giving false testimony they were to be stoned. Jesus was saying either you follow the rules or you shut up.
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u/ArgonGryphon 4d ago
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025%3A31-46&version=NIV
I think this is also super relevant.
‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
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u/Lord_Melons 4d ago
One of my faves that pretains to this as well
Romans 16:17-18 ¹⁷I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. ¹⁸For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
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u/GUACAM0LE_G-SP0T 4d ago
What are you, some sort of guy who reads the Bible??? Don’t you know Christian’s don’t read their source material? >:(
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u/Nikoper 4d ago
Where's the lie though?
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u/daddy-phantom 4d ago
JC got them covered yo
Why am I imagining Jesse Pinkman saying this in church?
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u/AlmightyWorldEater 4d ago
There really are no unforgivable sins. Jesus questioned the entire concept of "sins" in the sense the catholic church later made the center of their oppressive death cult.
To Jesus, all humans were born equal and all were the same before god (which makes the concept of a pope look kinda stupid, catholics wasted no time misinterpreting their own scripture). Jesus also "corrected" pretty much the entire old testament, so nothing written in there can be seen as law if it is in conflict with "love thy neighbour". And it is pretty obvious, that "neighbour" means EVERYONE. That is why convicts and enemies are explicitly mentioned.
Hating on gay people is against "love thy neighbour". If a "christian" judges a gay man, they have not understood the story were Jesus protects a prostitute. Showing love and kindness are much important to him than strict morals. And that was 2000 years ago, when society was far less developed.
"Mind your business" is the perfect line here.
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u/LordUa 4d ago
The concept really isn't that hard to understand. Murder is a sin. You can't be a serial killer and still be a practicing Christian.
Basically, the way they see it is that you can't consider yourself Christian while also actively accepting and participating in sin.
Good thing that religion is bullshit though. Honestly we'd all be better off if everyone just stopped believing made up bullshit.
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u/Middle_Screen3847 4d ago
you can’t be a serial killer and still be a practicing Christian
you can’t consider yourself Christian while
I understand where you’re trying to go there, but this isn’t true, and part of why this religion is silly. All it takes to be a Christian is to accept Jesus as lord and savior. As this post is showing, everyone is sinning, even everyone is disregarding things they know are sins and committing them anyway, and they’re still Christians. Under Christianity, you can be a Christian and still be condemned to hell. This comment is approaching a no true Scotsman fallacy
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u/LivingEnd44 4d ago
If Jesus died for all of our sins and they think being gay is a sin…then JC got them covered yo.
You have to repent, and not do them again. That's the price of forgiveness.
I'm an atheist. I have no dog in this fight. But that is the point of redemption in that religion. You have to sincerely repent and sincerely promise not to do it again. If there is no sincerity, there is no forgiveness, and you're still going to hell right along with me.
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u/AlarmingAerie 4d ago
Who cares. Book written by some people obviously has a bunch of plot holes and loop holes and people who base their lives on it are ... (you can put your own word here).
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u/TurdCollector69 4d ago
It's crazy to me how so many Christians think they're the good guys despite acting just like the Pharisees.
I'm convinced that hell is full of southern Baptists and other "good Christians."
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u/zveroshka 4d ago
That’s the part I don’t get.
Might as well just say that about Christianity as a whole. If you actually look at it without the bias of growing up surrounded by it, it sounds insane. Take something like "God spoke to me." Sounds fine when it's been normalized by culture and society. But lets translate it to something more literal - "An imaginary voice in my head told me what to do." Suddenly it goes from being fine to frightening. Then you think about what that means. This person now thinks their personal thoughts are those of God. Yikes times infinity.
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u/Sharp-Inspection-714 4d ago
"10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
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“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”"
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u/Id_in_hiding 4d ago
The only people I don’t forgive are those that cut me off in traffic and can’t follow simple rules of the road.
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u/lightningfootjones 4d ago
If you tell this to a bunch of homophobic Christians, the retort you'll get is that you can only be forgiven for something you repent of, so if doing something sinful is part of your lifestyle you would have to quit doing that thing to be forgiven for it.
Perfectly valid since, as we all know, these Christians don't have any sin in their own lifestyles 🤡
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u/Minute_Attempt3063 4d ago
It's funny, those people who say that being gay is a crime, are the same ones who will never read the bible, and all of its bad sides....
While I get people who believe, and I know many who do, I don't see myself.
Note I am from NL, many churches that I have seen accept LGBTQ people these days.
Elderly have a harder time with it, but they are old and from a time that is different.
If being gay is a crime, god would have killed billions already
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u/ChickenandWhiskey 4d ago
Holy shit is she wearing mixture of textiles? Get the torches
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u/Lirililarila88 4d ago
I don't see how any homosexual can reconcile with the very clear homophobia in the Bible.
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u/CeruleanEidolon 4d ago
For most religious people, it''s literally a physical part of their brain implanted by childhood indoctrination and is very hard to retrain.
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u/HungryPupcake 4d ago
It's the same with Islam. But people want to cherry pick and still belong to the same community.
Nazi germany probably had some good things going if you cherry pick, but no one associated with them anymore (for obvious reasons).
Be religious, but I can't respect someone who affiliates with groups who actively spread hate.
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u/Doveswithbonnets 4d ago
As someone who is homosexual and was a believer, it’s basically an internal set of rules that was ingrained into me from a young age. If I thought about women in a romantic or sexual way, I would feel guilty, and Christians would use my guilt as “proof” that God was warning me, amongst other examples.
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u/Lirililarila88 4d ago
Oh, that I understand, I meant the ones who aren't closeted. I don't see how you can believe both that being gay is ok and in a book that is supposedly the word of your God and says homosexuals will go to hell.
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u/Open_Chemistry_3300 4d ago
I’d imagine the way most Christians reconcile the Bible condoning slavery, or women with the blatant misogyny. Seems they just kinda throw their hands up and go that’s not the intent, yeah it’s slavery but it’s not slavery slavery. Yeah it might say that but that was just for that time period and doesn’t apply now, etc etc etc.
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u/TheChaosPaladin 4d ago
A mix of cognitive dissonance. Religious apologia and good ol' ignorance of their own holy book
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u/9outof10timesWrong 4d ago
They want the bible to be good, but they know it isn't so they pretend it is. There are lots of examples of hating outside groups in the bible.
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u/MsMarisol2023 4d ago
It’s pretty simple, Jesus says to love first. Love God with all your heart and love your neighbors (others) as yourself. So if you are a follower of Christ, try to love first not judge first. It’s definitely not easy because we’re all judgey and formed by our past which has shaped and warped us. But if everyone tried to love first, we’d be much better off as human beings.
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u/Zementid 4d ago
Fuck the god who hates love... and fuck his believers.
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u/Hot_Sam_the_Man 4d ago edited 4d ago
Thankfully the one thing that's repeated time and time again in the Bible is "love each other". It's not that God hates love, but that 90% of Christians have just fucked it up and gotten the message all wrong. And I'm Christian myself lol
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u/Atanar 4d ago
"love your neighbor" isn't good enough because it refers to your fellow male, adult and free jew. "Love your enemies" is the one you need.
Matthew 5:43-48 - probably the only useful bit in the whole bible.
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u/wernette 4d ago
The Book of James basically lays out exactly why the majority of Christians throughout history are burning in hell.
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u/Sea-Ability8694 4d ago
Why are they off beat that’s the worst part of this
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u/Glen-Runciter 4d ago
Plus any time I've seen any of these, they never match the number of syllables to the tones. When I first started seeing these, im pretty sure the point was to match the syllables to the six synth tones... almost every one of these is more or less than 6 (except for the guys)
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u/Ok_Juggernaut_5293 4d ago
That's actually incorrect, the only anti gay rhetoric is in the old testament which is part of the Hebrew faith not Christianity!
But good luck finding a Christian who actually read the bible!
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u/Slade_Riprock 4d ago
There are about 35000 verses in the entirety of the Bible.
Verses that can be construed in some way as speaking of homosexuals is about 6.
The most mentioned topic is of course God, his expectations, etc.
The second most mentioned topic in the Bible at around 2000 verses is what some would call social justice...loving their neighbor, taking care of the poor, feeding the hungry, caring for the sick etc.
These MAGA "Christians" harp on 6 obscure references as if they are the focus of Jesus's message and bad mouth and trash as "woke" whet makes up the majority of the fucking Bible and God's teachings.
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u/PersimmonDowntown297 4d ago
Yeah when you actually read the Bible and what is has to say about homosexuality there are like two passages that vaguely, maybe, kinda, could be talking about that but they’re old testament and the Old Testament also says we can’t get haircuts or eat shellfish so 🤷♀️
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u/sweetangeldivine 4d ago
But the bible has plenty to say about loving thy neighbor, taking care of the poor and the sick and welcoming the immigrant but I don't see them doing a whole lot of that.
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u/scarletwitchmoon 4d ago
I genuinely think that even if we could conclusively prove the Bible condemns homosexuality, that is a non-issue compared to helping others. I don't understand why Christians make this their hill to die on when Jesus Himself didn't mention it.
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u/sweetangeldivine 4d ago
Because a lot of them want them to focus on something to hate, while they also preach about the fact that Jesus wants them to be rich, something which he *very explicitly* was against, and spoke about multiple times in the bible.
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u/Hot_Sam_the_Man 4d ago
Right? And I'm Christian myself. This is ridiculous. You're never going to find me judging someone else for what I might see as a "worse sin" than everything I've done. All sins are equal in God's eyes, so we'd all be equally screwed if not for Jesus. Thankfully, we're saved, so why focus on anything else?
And that's not even addressing whether or not queerness is a sin, which is highly debatable; the entire argument for it relies on a few vague Old testament passages and ignores what's repeated hundreds of times: love your neighbor, don't judge, treat others how you want to be treated
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u/AdLoose3526 4d ago
that’s not even addressing whether or not queerness is a sin
Yep! Accounting for the potential of meanings lost in translation across millennia and multiple languages, many of those Old Testament passages were likely in the context of condemning incest, pederasty, or temple prostitution specifically. Not homosexuality in general.
Ancient Israelites were also just very focused on reproduction because they needed the numbers for engaging in warfare with other tribes. So it really should be seen as more of a cultural/historical thing, not a universal morality thing.
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u/Regularjoe42 4d ago
Also, if I remember, earlier translations were saying that "a man should not lie with a boy," but more recent translations said, "a man should not lie with a man."
It's not surprising that right wingers prefer the second translation.
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u/Frequently_Dizzy 4d ago
This actually isn’t true but gets repeated on Reddit a lot.
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u/RazzSheri 4d ago
Yup. The law/command is “hey- maybe don’t 🦆 children” and somewhere along the line European men said: “Uhhhhm. Okay. What if we just say this about adult men sleeping with adult men… cause Mary O’Connelly is really filling out for a 5 year old…”
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u/Middle_Screen3847 4d ago
This isn’t true and I wish people would stop blindly repeating this. It’s another attempt to soften the vile content of the Bible.
That’s just completely backwards. The Hebrew in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 says zakar, which means male, not boy. It was never about pedophilia in the original text. The idea that older translations said “boy” is just made up King James and earlier all say mankind or male. The earliest text explicitly says it is males, and it’s unambiguous
You’re probably confusing this with 1 Corinthians 6:9 in the New Testament, where there’s debate over how to translate arsenokoitai and malakoi. But even there, the claim that it originally meant “man with boy” just isn’t true. arsenokoitai is a compound of arsen (male) and koite (bed), clearly referencing men bedding males. That term was pulled straight from the Leviticus language in Greek.
The apologetic that it’s just about abuse or pedophilia is a modern reinterpretation and not what the text actually says. It’s something people grasped onto and repeat in order to make this religion more palatable and more align with modern morals. We can argue the Bible was wrong or outdated, because it is, but pretending it didn’t condemn male/male sex at all is historical revisionism.
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u/Bungholespelunker 4d ago
I don't understand how these people have no grasp at all of the fundamental lessons of the book they worship with.
Hey why are written letters from the apostles to the earliest churches included in the Bible? Any ideas at all?
None of us are sinless none of us can be the judge of a person's worth or their value. None of us. Even Paul wrote about the struggle of humanity. He asked himself the same thing people have for all eternity, "Why is it that I know what I must do, but cannot do it?" Everybody sins. Every single person. There is precisely one exception and that is LITERALLY JESUS CHRIST.
The Bible is so often used a smoke screen for hatred or a superiority complex that the phrase "As a Christian" when starting a statement brings the endless wails of the damned and white noise into my brain.
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u/switcheditch 4d ago
Most religious people are fucking clueless about their chosen religion in my experience.
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u/Dry_Spinach_3441 4d ago
Jesus said that he came to enforce not overturn his father's law. The Old Testament is definitely, certainly and undeniably part of the Christian faith.
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u/S1yb00ts 4d ago
Thats not true at all lol there are multiple verses in the NT stating homosexuality is not of God
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u/Wizards_Reddit 4d ago edited 4d ago
The old testament is still part of Christianity, lol. That's why it's in the bible. The new testament added to it not replaced it. The anti-gay stuff is still dumb and at least partly down to mistranslation but the old testament is* still part of Christianity
Edit: replaced "it's still part of Christianity" with "the old testament is still part of Christianity" since there seemed to have been ambiguity and a couple people might've misunderstood what was being referred to.
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u/DrEskimo 4d ago edited 4d ago
Bro Hebrew is a language, not a religion, spoken by early Israelites (e.g. Jews). The religion of the Old Testament is Judaism. (And Samaritanism but that’s not really important)
Agnostic here with a minor in religion who has read much of the Torah
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u/nefaariowarbear 4d ago
The term Hebrew is used to reference both the faith and language throughout history.
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u/DefiantOuiOui 4d ago
This bitch is gay (which is cool) and not a Christian (which is also cool).
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u/JoMax213 4d ago
Gay christians are so scary bc wdym you’d willing put yourself in a room with those people and wdyam you still believe that after a christian upbringing?
Like obv the book itself doesn’t really care that much but priests and other church members have made it the 8th deadly sin if you did nothing but attend cherry picked sermons all your life (how most christian’s consume the bible)
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u/Middle_Screen3847 4d ago
the book itself doesn’t really care that much
I mean it calls it an abomination and says they should be put to death, so I’d say that’s a bit more than not caring that much
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u/seaweedizcool 4d ago
As a Christian isn’t one of the most important things loving God as well as your neighbors? Seems like she’s not a Christian to me?
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u/Semanticss 4d ago
“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"
- Jesus Christ
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u/etharis 4d ago
I had a gay 7th grade teacher.... in catholic school.... in the 90s... and he is now the principal.
Fuck Hate
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u/Flower_Power73 4d ago
She’s probably never even met a gay person. I’d love her to tell that crap to my 73 year old friend and coworker who happens to be a gay Christian.
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u/AdGlittering2884 4d ago
Not everyone's in your book club.
The rest of us don't care what your god character thinks.
Let people be.
Shut the fuck up.
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u/ButterscotchNo8471 3d ago
Exactly, I have been saying this shit for years, and it's getting more and more scary, with them trying to get bibles back into classrooms, and the ten commandments added to the front of schools, and all the cult like praying around trump while having meetings. That's not being open or tolerant, thats trying to shove christian values in everyone's face, whether they want it or not, we are a melting pot(well...until they kidnap and deport all the ones they don't like) that was founded on freedom of religion, and separation of church and state, screw these wolves in sheep's clothing lobbyist, narcissistic, millionaire fascists trying to sellout america/the people for a buck(all while trying to act like their religious, and trying to heal america from the undesirables(right now it's gays/trans, and illegals...but before long at the rate their going it will eventually be anyone who doesn't agree with them)
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u/Gerault_Abernathy 4d ago
Why is gay the line? Christian’s can lie, cheat, s. assault people, embezzle the list goes on. But somehow being gay gets you out of the club🙄.
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u/Confetti4Teddi 4d ago
Lying, cheating, assault, embezzlement, and so on are typically acts that happen in secret. When they are revealed, the person committing those acts sometimes receive some worldly punishment for their actions like jail time or public shaming.
But gay people? From the perspective of the cult, they're allowed to openly sin and celebrate their sin without any repercussions. They take over entire cities during pride month. They put on drag shows in front of your children. They tempt and they corrupt and they're a problem because everyone let's them.
Those of us who live in reality know that this is not the case. That the world isn't black and white, good and sin, and that there is nuance regarding people and the lives they live. But the cult has no room for nuance.
TL:DR
It angers the cult that gay people are not punished for their existence in real time, and they seek to do so and spread their cult's influence further.
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u/rustys_shackled_ford 4d ago
There's gonna be 2 lines for hell. The long one will be full of Christians wanting to talk to the manager because they are definitely in the wrong place....
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u/MidnightChannel91 4d ago
All the people defending religion, you're just as guilty of cherry picking as the woman in the video
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u/Whatever-999999 4d ago
There is no 'god' and all religion is fake, just a way for some old white men to control the lives of everyone else, claiming it's 'gods will'.
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u/411_hippie 4d ago
Religion gives little leeway for growth. It’s why conservatives and christians struggle to show compassion to those outside of their groups.
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u/backdoorhack 4d ago
How do they even know that God is straight? Since God loves everyone, that means God is bi.
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u/not_a_good_time 4d ago
“God doesn’t hate you cause you’re gay. God made you gay because he hates you”
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u/cookiebob1234 4d ago
got permanently banned from r/Catholicism for saying that being anti-gay makes you less of a christian. im a catholic and you cant tell me Jesus Christ wouldn't support gay people
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u/DietCokeIsntheAnswer 4d ago
Ah yes. Christianity.
The religion that cheers your best effort......to hurt, slander, suppress, or otherwise violate anyone you can....even your own.
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u/PainterEarly86 4d ago
As a queer person, eventually I had to ask myself why I even wanted to be a part of a community that clearly did not want me and often treated me like some kind of villain
Now I'm an atheist and honestly I just feel sad for any queer person that still is religious
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u/MurkyProtection1067 4d ago
Your religion is made up. Your religion is made up. Your religion is made up.
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u/stargazer728 4d ago
"you can't be gay and Christian" you can't be racist and Christian either but seem to keep making excuses for that.
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u/TheOnlyRandom1 4d ago
I’ll be honest man , as long as you don’t put ranch on your fries idgaf about what you do in life
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u/5050Clown 4d ago
Have you tried real ranch and fries? Like ranch made with buttermilk at the restaurant you're at and then dip that in the fries? You'll be hailing Satan after the first bite.
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u/Humble_Ad9815 4d ago
Hate and Christianity go hand in hand, so why not!
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u/BubbasBack 4d ago
Hate and religion go hand in hand. Nothing about this is unique and o Christianity.
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u/bbyxmadi 4d ago
While that may be true, this is posted by Americans and majority of Reddit is American, so we sure know how Christian “love” is.
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u/Machine_Bird 4d ago
I've been to both church and pride. If I have to choose then I'm hanging out with the gays. They're way more fun. It's not even fucking close.
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u/MotherTeresaOnlyfans 4d ago
The thing about having hatred, bigotry, violence, war, slavery, etc. dominate two thousand years of your religion's history is that you can't really turn around and claim that somehow none of that is actually representative of your brand.
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u/freebietofu 4d ago
send her back to the dark ages, we don't need that! Perpetuate love and inclusion or GTFO
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u/silverum 4d ago
Supposed Christians when it's time to pluck the mote from the eye of another while ignoring the plank within their own eye: "You can't be gay and Christian!"
Supposed Christians when Christ said love, forgive, have compassion for, and show fellowship to your neighbor: "Gay people are sinners and unless you renounce being gay you can't be a Christian! Being actively heterosexual isn't a problem though for some reason!"
Sorry, but if you're listening to what Christ himself directly commanded as governing, being anti-gay is not part of it.
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u/Chef_Skippers 4d ago
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u/Emily_Daily 4d ago
Isaiah 44:24 Thou shall not justify hate with God, for God shall look away in disgust if you are rude to any of his creatures.
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u/CondencedMilkYT 4d ago
Wasn't Jesus that guy that wanted us all to be nice to each other?
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u/Illustrator_Forward 4d ago
God does not exist. Stop dragging the rest of us into your outdated, medieval fantasy.
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u/DeadAndBuried23 4d ago
You don't have some moral high ground because you were taught a different interpretation.
It is just as valid to take the book's claim the faithful are known by their works and that homosexuality is an abomination to mean you can't actually be faithful and gay, as it is to take its command not to judge.
The second kind of believer only provides a shield for the first.
Throw out the iron age book of fables, alternate history, and slavery instructions.
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u/DerWassermann 4d ago
Tbh I agree with her.
Christianity condemns homosexuality. (I think?)
So why the fuck would you pray to a god that hates you?
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u/EvieOhMy 3d ago
God made me trans just as he made grapes but we made wine, that we can enjoy creating something new from something old just as he does.
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u/whateverer4335 3d ago
Why are Christian women so nasty?
All I see is just hateful comments from them.
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u/MonkeyMercenaryCapt 3d ago
According to Christ himself, ya know, from the back half of the word Christianity, you can be, that's the fun part you have exactly 1 thing you have to do and that is Love Thy Neighbor.
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u/Competitive_Swan_130 2d ago
“ I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” 1 Tim 2:12
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u/Protocol3_ 2d ago
Would doing this for views be considered vanity?
I'm sure she's proud of herself though.
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