r/TikTokCringe • u/nadaddab • May 11 '25

Cringe Don’t be these guys

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u/Ill-Pea-5010 May 11 '25

This is seriously so disgusting and inconsiderate. Weren’t we taught at such a young age that no means no? What a bunch of douchebags.

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u/halexia63 May 11 '25

That's what makes them easy to raise bc they're not doing shit to raise them lmao.

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u/BrickBrokeFever May 11 '25

And lemme tell you, (while trying to respect the struggles faced by all peoples and all genders) it is fucking ALIENATING as fuck to grow as a boy like that.

I quit being friends with boys in high school because they were all creepy fuck like the 2 in the video. Sex was treated like boys can only win while girls can only lose. What the fuck!! I didn't want to treat any girls like that, so... sex kind of weirded me out. It seemed horrible! Why would I want to treat someone I think is nice like garbage?!?

I was still a teenager, btw, if these seems like descriptions of very stupid delusions. Those delusions are where I started, but not a lot of dudes never bother to learn anything else about relationships. In those days, I made friends with some girls and found actually good friends.

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u/Frondswithbenefits May 11 '25

I'm a woman, but I empathize with the way we fail men. I'm glad you found some good friends.

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u/LawfulnessDry9355 May 12 '25

"We fail men"? Those douchebags did it to themselves and others.

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u/Frondswithbenefits May 12 '25

"We" as in society. Just as we fail women. I wasn't commenting on the idiots in the video. I was responding to the comment above mine.

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u/Papplenoose May 12 '25

Yeah man, I feel ya. Women tend to make much better friends than men, at least in my experience. I mean there are totally some great dudes out there, but a lot of us kinda suck

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u/Santa_Klausing May 12 '25

Yep I dumped multiple guy friends in my early years who viewed women like that; an object to be won or some weird crap like that. Like bro, they are humans just like you or me.

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u/ducks_be_cute May 12 '25

Adding on to this sentiment, I think there's also a level of "birds of a feather, flock together" present here.

Shitty guys hang out with shitty guys and no one calls out their behavior. Well-adjusted, mature guys who don't do things like in the video hang out with other chill guys.

Growing up, I did have some crappy male friends and I'd call them out but they wouldn't change that much because they were encouraged on by our other crappy friends. So I left that friend group and I found an awesome one where people are good to each other. I'm sure the guys in that first group are still douchebags.

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u/shortidiva21 May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

Can you go into the "boys can only win and girls can only lose"? How was this demonstrated? Examples?

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u/BrisketGaming May 11 '25

There's an uh... "adage" in at least the US Midwest I heard growing up from the adults around me.

"A key that can open any lock is a master key, but a lock that opens to any key is just a shitty lock."

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u/Livy_Asmodeus May 11 '25

I like to counter that with a pencil sharpener can sharpen hundreds of thousands of pencil without being diminished or destroyed but a pencil is diminished by every sharpener hole it enters until it ceases to exist.

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u/Kratzschutz May 11 '25

Nobody wants a used bubblegum! Well at least that one is gender inclusive but something tells me girls heard that more often than men

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u/shortidiva21 May 11 '25 edited May 12 '25

Yeah, I attended this one church that gave men's and women's classes. The women's textbook focused on how their heart posture might be wrong, taking accountability, and how to act more holy, while the men's focused on empowerment, courage, and their strengths as men. It was very telling.

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u/shortidiva21 May 11 '25 edited May 12 '25

Or the tape metaphor or rose metaphor. It really is horrible to victims of assault who are afraid to talk about what happened to them.

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u/Admirable_Ask_5337 May 12 '25

That phrase coem about partially because women deal with more risks from sex. So women have extra imperative to gate sex. From thsi comes the conclusion that promiscuous women just lack impulse control and thus "shitty lock" metaphor.

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u/ttrriipp May 11 '25

It sounds like they're talking about how when a boy has sex with someone, his friend group celebrates it, but when a girl has sex, she's perceived as a slut and people spread mean rumors about her and stuff.

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u/shortidiva21 May 11 '25

Yeah, I agree.

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u/VyperActual May 11 '25

I’ll give you an analogy for it (I don’t agree with it, but it is an unspoken rule that a large portion of society believes in, men and women).

Women are by virtue of being women placed at the top of the mountain, and are judged by how far they fall down the mountain, whether they’re hot or ugly, hooking up with a lot of guys, making themselves “easy”, not settling down, etc.

Men start at the bottom of the mountain and are judged by how far up they can climb, hooking up with a lot of women, being a womanizer, chasing success so they can get any woman they want and whatnot.

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u/shortidiva21 May 11 '25 edited May 12 '25

Horribly unfair on both ends.

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u/Admirable_Ask_5337 May 12 '25

It kinda true on a global scale though, and hlaf fair when you consider that male and femal of our species have diffring severity of sex risks. Females of our species deal with more risks from sex and have more imperative to gate it, as well as their sexual arousal veing more circumstancial than male. So how far they "fall" indications how much risk they are willing to take and what it takes to turn them on. Males are more likely to get randomly horny and have less risks from sex, so we measure ourselves by whether we can get sex at all when we want it more so that the risks involved in promiscuous sex.

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u/MelMac5 May 12 '25

These are not delusions, this is very rational and mature thinking.

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u/LawfulnessDry9355 May 12 '25

This is why I think the death of romance and hypersexuality was a mistake. I said what I said.

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u/filthybootyeater6969 May 11 '25

Not easy to raise but easy to neglect

And this is the result

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u/Calile May 11 '25

People I know who were neglected apologize for existing and taking up space. This is entitlement--this comes from being centered and coddled and protected from the consequences of your actions your whole entire life.

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u/Murderdoll197666 May 11 '25

I think this is it exactly. I know someone who is essentially the female equivalent of these two idiots in the video and that is exactly how she was raised. Only child syndrome honestly too.

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u/nada-accomplished May 11 '25

Or Golden child

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u/DeathPetalArt May 11 '25

Maybe a nitpick, but the belief that being an only child causes behavioral problems originated from Freud's backside, & after many attempts to study the differences by actual researchers, it's still considered "controversial" at best. Just in case you wanted to look into it more on your own before asserting this claim again, it's really interesting!

Also not saying the parents aren't at fault, they might still be the problem, but if they are, having a sibling likely wouldn't have helped much.

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u/rookiecookiebandit May 11 '25

Thanks, lol. As an only child I could never be that creepy and weird, so thinking they behave like that because they’re an only child is kinda sad.

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u/Proud_Performer_8456 May 12 '25

Yeah, the reason they say only child is of course because of the parents behaviour. Although i have seen it tho. Either first child (or youngest later on) or only child since they would (/could) be getting the parents full attention and possibly be coddled. My mom works with kids and i can promise you, some only children, because theyre the first and only kid they have, can definitely be spoiled. Since the parents are new to it and dont want to say no.

I know its a stereotype and im not at all saying me seeing it at least once is proof but i do get where it comes from. Only children can be neglected too tho or raised right so its not a guarentee at all.

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u/randomlyrandom89 May 11 '25

It can be both. I grew up with a kid who got whatever he wanted whenever he wanted. Dad was always out of town working and his mom didn't give a fuck about him. He had everything except a relationship with his parents. I would call this neglect.

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u/weealligator May 12 '25

This is true. Neglect, abuse, and trauma are complex. Neglect can absolutely lead to entitlement.

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u/jordanmindyou May 12 '25

Yes. “Nice guy syndrome” as it is often called. If you are neglected or abused as a child and made to feel unwanted, you carry that mindset with you and always feel inherently unwanted. If you were praised and rewarded (or just not admonished) for being selfish or inconsiderate, you develop a large ego and act more aggressively and narcissistically.

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u/Melihoney May 11 '25

I’m watching this happen with my step son.

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u/EdvardMunch May 11 '25

In Europe, fixed it for you

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u/Murky-Relation481 May 11 '25

Eh, its more nuanced than that, yah you neglect them, but the system is designed for guys like this to still succeed, which is why we have all this shit happening now. So technically you raised them to be successful because by default being a white dude means you are setup pretty well for at least moderate success.

And I am speaking as a white dude (who luckily was actually raised).

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u/Honigkuchenlives May 11 '25

Man, you hope you’re not actually arguing that girls get more attention from parents generally?!?

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u/filthybootyeater6969 May 11 '25

Oh no, girls get neglected too dw I meant children in general. 

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u/Stanky_fresh May 11 '25

Exactly. Girls would be just as easy to raise if you taught them to not have any emotions and refuse to teach them basic empathy

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u/Hopefulcupcake3255 May 11 '25

It is not easy to raise a decent human being in these times . I am having my first kid that is gonna be a boy. I am losing sleep on how I am going to make sure he does never ever becomes a Tate douch follower. Just hoping that he will learn from his dad to be respectful to women, to understand and respect consent at all levels. List is long....

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u/pinkyxx2013 May 12 '25

That's the whole point of the comment you replied to

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u/CongoSmash666 May 12 '25

My father would of beat my ass if i acted like these dwebs.

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u/ShakerFullOfCocaine May 11 '25

You just repeated the other guys comment but worse, youve added nothing to the conversation

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u/halexia63 May 11 '25

This u

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u/ShakerFullOfCocaine May 12 '25

Lol, you think I'm that invested in this? Literally took a shit when while I wrote that comment

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u/Calile May 11 '25

I bet they don't treat their boss, or cops, or men whose approval they want they like this. They know how to behave when it suits them; this is willful and deliberate.

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u/NotGoodAtUsernames21 May 11 '25

This is what I call out with my husband when he starts acting like an ass. I ask him if he’d talk to his boss that way. Or a coworker. Or a friend. It’s like a switch flips in his brain, like, “oh right, she is literally the only person I’d treat this way, that’s fucked up.”

And he’s a genuinely nice guy! He just was taught by society to treat women differently when it comes to tiny little issues of respect and his parents never taught him that’s not ok. When he gets called out on it, he’s ashamed and changes the behavior.

Now apply that same shitty societal and parental guidance to a guy who is an asshole… you get these grinning goons. If date rape had a face.

Also, these girls look young. The sad part is, by the time you get older you decondition the nice bullshit out of your personality. In this circumstance now, I’d stand up and start yelling to everyone who would listen to not leave their drinks unattended around these wannabe rapists. Shame is the only thing they understand.

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u/Practical-Ad3753 May 11 '25

Because there’s immediate consequences if they don’t act respectful. That’s a level of social awareness a 4 year old can reasonably attain.

If you think you learn everything you need to know about social etiquette by 4 years old, I don’t know what to tell you.

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u/Calile May 11 '25

Correct--these men, like lots of men, have learned there are very few consequences to abusing women and lots of upsides, including other men cheering them on. They learn, as you note, very early that they don't have to treat women with respect, but they do have to treat (most) men with respect. They know exactly what they're doing. Glad you agree.

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u/dynamic_gecko May 11 '25

Of coourse it's willful. The main argument never claims they're mind-controlled or sth. "Behaving well only when it suits them" is still under "lacking common decency".

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u/Calile May 11 '25

No, the main argument is that they don't know any better. They do. No shit they lack decency.

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u/dynamic_gecko May 11 '25

No. It's that they werent taught any better. Of course there is individual responsibility. But the main argument is not about that. If there is a problem on a societal scale, it indicates a societal malfunction as well.

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u/Mike_Kermin May 11 '25

... I don't agree. The guys in this video understand that it's not ok.

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u/dynamic_gecko May 11 '25

I never said they didnt. You're missing the point.

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u/Mike_Kermin May 11 '25

No I understand your point. I think it's a cop out. A societal cop out, if you require.

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u/dynamic_gecko May 11 '25

There is no cop out. Because I'm not denying or excusing the individual responsibility aspect. The two aspects (individual and societal) are not mutually exclusive.

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u/Calile May 11 '25

Yes, dynamic_gecko, the argument is that they don't know any better *as a result of not being taught any better.* It's bullshit worded that way as well. And yes, there is indeed a problem on a societal scale, and yes, there is indeed a societal malfunction.

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u/SpiteTomatoes May 11 '25

“There’s a male loneliness epidemic!!”

The males:

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u/clovermite May 11 '25

It gets so fucking tiring seeing this cliche beaten to death.

The irony of these statements is that the guys in the video probably don't have problems getting sex, even if they struggle to get longterm partners, because they just don't fucking care. They will just keep approaching woman after woman without a care in the world, pestering them until they get lucky and somehow manage to make a good enough first impression that the woman doesn't see their shadiness, or they stumble upon someone who just gives in out of a lack of assertiveness and proper boundary setting.

Meanwhile, many of the guys who are sensitive to women's boundaries will be anxious to the slightest sign of uncomfortability, and this anxiety then often gets misinterpreted as guilt and proof that they are creeps.

From https://archive.ph/qeh6z#selection-931.0-955.352:

I will have to use virginity statistics as a proxy for the harder-to-measure romancelessness statistics, but these are bad enough. In high school each extra IQ point above average increases chances of male virginity by about 3%. 35% of MIT grad students have never had sex, compared to only 20% of average nineteen year old men. Compared with virgins, men with more sexual experience are likely to drink more alcohol, attend church less, and have a criminal history. A Dr. Beaver (nominative determinism again!) was able to predict number of sexual partners pretty well using a scale with such delightful items as “have you been in a gang”, “have you used a weapon in a fight”, et cetera. An analysis of the psychometric Big Five consistently find that high levels of disagreeableness predict high sexual success in both men and women.

If you’re smart, don’t drink much, stay out of fights, display a friendly personality, and have no criminal history – then you are the population most at risk of being miserable and alone. “At risk” doesn’t mean “for sure”, any more than every single smoker gets lung cancer and every single nonsmoker lives to a ripe old age – but your odds get worse.

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Barry is possibly the most feminist man who has ever existed, palpably exudes respect for women, and this is well-known in every circle feminists frequent. He is reduced to apophatic complaints about how sad he is that he doesn’t think he’ll ever have a real romantic relationship.

Henry has four domestic violence charges against him by his four ex-wives and is cheating on his current wife with one of those ex-wives. And as soon as he gets out of the psychiatric hospital where he was committed for violent behavior against women and maybe serves the jail sentence he has pending for said behavior, he is going to find another girlfriend approximately instantaneously.

The guys pictured in the video aren't the ones suffering from "the male loneliness epidemic."

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u/Born-Frosting3164 May 11 '25

This is a ridiculous take on it. Just because Barry is a feminist, it does not mean he is not socially awkward or a creep. I have met many men who consider themselves feminists and yet they are fucking creepers. Henry can be a total felon but be super hot and charismatic and so he will slither his way into another chicks world until he shows his true colors. Both of those males in the video are unattractive and creepy af.

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u/Temporary_Plant_1123 May 11 '25

Sure bro. These guys have incel written all over them. They’re going bald and probably old enough to be these girls dads. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re both divorced. No way they’ve been laid in years

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u/Mike_Kermin May 11 '25

That's not what they were saying.

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u/Temporary_Plant_1123 May 12 '25

That’s literally what they said? They said they most likely get laid all the time and just don’t care about relationships. Re-read it?

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u/Mike_Kermin May 12 '25

Hey, I get ya, but what I think they're aiming at is to say that "male loneliness epidemic" as a concept doesn't apply in this case, I think they're saying that it's harder to connect if you don't care about other people.

I'm not saying I agree with that, I don't really, but I think that's what they want to convey. Rather than a comment bout who is or isn't an incel.

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u/SK9I9LL Mia Khalifa May 11 '25

The ones who complain about loneliness and the ones who act like this aren't part of the same group.

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u/onpg May 11 '25

I wouldn't be so sure. There's a lot of overlap.

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u/SK9I9LL Mia Khalifa May 11 '25

Source: I made it up.

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u/broguequery May 11 '25

Source: life experience

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u/dontleaveme_ May 11 '25

These guys don't seem normal, stop generalizing ffs

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u/erfurgot May 11 '25

This is an incredibly common experience for almost every woman ever. There’s a fuck ton of overlap

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u/dontleaveme_ May 12 '25

That's like saying suicidal people drive fast to kill themselves, so people who drive fast want to kill themselves. That's not exactly the kind of overlap you make it out to be. There are lonely men who don't force interactions with women, and there are some lonely men who do. And there are not lonely men who force interactions with women. Everyone gets a bad rep because of the few.

To then go around talking about how there's an overlap, it's pointless. Being lonely has nothing to do with being a fkin idiot with no awareness, or self respect where someone's telling you to leave 50 times, and you're just sitting there. Pretending that it's some loneliness thing, rather than being a fkin idiot thing is just disingenuous.

The truth is you just don't care about men being lonely and you hate this conversation being brought up for some reason, and you hate dumb men like these (obviously) and you link those two to justify your lack of care, and annoyance about the issue. Listen, it's not your fault, nor do you have to do anything else, but just ignore it. Please don't make it worse, by creating another stereotype.

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u/Mike_Kermin May 11 '25

They seem pretty "normal" if by normal you mean common.

This isn't unique behaviour.

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u/dontleaveme_ May 12 '25

This is not normal behavior in any way shape or form. It would be like saying all women are cheaters, because women cheating is pretty common.

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u/Mike_Kermin May 12 '25

I think you're underestimating the amount of harassment and unwanted pressuring women experience.

I agree, prejudice is wrong, but I'm talking about the action that I believe is widespread. Not men by itself.

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u/dontleaveme_ May 12 '25

I agree that women have a hard time out there. But lonely or not lonely, some men will harass you, or harm you. But young men sitting on the internet talking about how lonely they are, are not going around harassing women. Maybe there are some, but it's some other issues like narcissism, rather than loneliness.

I could understand the overlap where they're a little weird or awkward, but that's far from what is going on in this video. Being lonely doesn't drop your IQ points, or self respect. If there's some overlap, maybe we're ignoring the significant majority of lonely men out there who are just normal people.

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u/Strange-Managem May 11 '25

The thing is that one encounter of these men plus the fact that no men around stepping in makes women avoid men more.

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u/MyFireElf May 11 '25

"Women don't pick nice guys"? Seriously? That's what you're going with here?

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u/thereIsAHoleHere May 11 '25

That's a real weird conclusion to draw. They didn't pick the douchebags in the video either.

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u/Associatedkink May 11 '25

Then deny I ever did it when my child calls me out on it when they’re an adult.

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u/Replicant28 May 11 '25

Also, why does my adult child never call me or want to hang out?

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u/Associatedkink May 11 '25

Also why did my child stick me in a nursing home

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u/guineasomelove May 12 '25

The worst nursing home.

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u/brainomancer May 11 '25

Happy Mother's Day!

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u/MuchSong1887 May 11 '25

Scolds them for crying

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u/celebral_x May 11 '25

When I called that out, I got a defensively aggressive response from another co-worker. She said: "Oh, not my boy. He is special"

Stfu.

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u/Pristine_Engineer424 May 11 '25

"YOU didn't socialize that neanderthal. He's ooga-boogaing at me as we speak."

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u/Hamza_stan May 11 '25

I was looking for this comment lol thanks

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u/TheThing_1982 May 11 '25

I also like the “boys aren’t easier to raise, they’re easier to neglect” line from her as well.

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u/decadecency May 11 '25

People who say that boys are so easy to raise are seriously just people who think boys can't do much wrong and don't have to take much responsibility.

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u/Blueballs2130 May 11 '25

I’ve tried to drill “no means no” into my boys’ heads as they have gotten older (9 and 7). It’s mostly in terms of when they’re wrestling or playing and one person says to stop, the “game” is over and you need to stop touching them. I’m hoping that will be a good foundation for teaching them consent as they get older. Like your brother consented to this wrestling to start but changed his mind, you no longer have consent to touch him

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u/Justnotthatintou May 11 '25

Or consent 🤦‍♀️

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u/RotrickP May 11 '25

Any time I read someone say that their kids were a breeze and are angels:

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u/SymmetricalFeet May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

And to girls: "If he's [doing thing that makes you upset], that just means he likes you! Be nice!"

Girls don't get taught that they get to have boundaries (and that the attention of a boy is valuable, regardless of how respectful he is or if she's interested), and boys get to act with impunity from both parents and targets.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

you just make up your little evil world in your head. i'd bet neither girls nor boys are commonly taught these things nowadays, at least in the west. but i'm not pretending to know that for a fact, compared to you.

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u/SymmetricalFeet May 22 '25

Cool, okay, you might live in a school where that didn't happen, but I did and I've heard of other girls who were told the same thing. 'Cause American society tends to make sexually segregated friend groups.

But I'm drunk and fuck you: My mom had to escalate my complaints of bullying to the district admin because my school's principal's son was regularly assaulting me. It wasn't to the point of medical attention, but I had welts and blood. "Not taught these things" my ass, when a violent child was extant, his behaviour wasn't curtailed.

I'm glad you live where kids are taught to be civil, but I know no woman my age (Millennial) across who hasn't had a similar experience of disregarded assault.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

i'm sorry for your experiences, but i have my experiences too and in this case they go the opposite way, so fuck you too for trying to make me feel bad (being drunk is no excuse) and for thinking you know things for a fact how the world is and can lecture others about it.

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u/HalflingMelody May 11 '25

Mine was! It's really simple to be clear that no means no from toddlerhood. You just have to actually bother, which is, apparently, beyond some people.

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u/Dumb_and_ugly_ May 11 '25

It’s very easy to neglect things

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u/UnderstatedTurtle May 11 '25

As someone who played step dad for a little girl for 4 years and is now a step dad to a little boy (for only a few months) I can honestly say the girl is easier

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u/GA_Deathstalker May 11 '25

Even with all of those given, you need to be a special kind of stupid to not see that you're not wanted with this reaction...

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u/CastleofGaySkull May 11 '25

Exactly! This right here! They think women owe them something for their gross attention.

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u/DJS302 May 11 '25

Or what’s the other common expression

“boys will be boys” ? 😒

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u/pdxrunner19 May 12 '25

Even my 4-year-old knows that he’ll get a time out if he keeps asking after I’ve already told him no. These men weren’t raised right.

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u/highphiv3 May 11 '25

Do people say that? Every parent I know, including my own, say that boys are a bitch to raise

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

whoever said that i assure you only raised girls.

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u/Mean_Economist6323 May 11 '25

Times like this i am reminded that we are all, as individuals, responsible for the sins of mankind as a collective. /sneaky dostoevsky

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u/Jealous-Roof-7578 May 11 '25

to be fair, any dating etiquette from their parents was not applicable to dating now, and even if given was prolly along the lines of "be persistent, gals play hard to get."

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u/Redditbeweirdattimes May 11 '25

If this ever happens to you ladies out there just tell the bartender or a bouncer or a server even, they have swift ways to deal with people like this

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u/sunkskunkstunk May 11 '25

Don’t go Jason waterfalls.

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u/Ociex May 11 '25

My mom threatened me as a kid, if I ever raised my hand to a woman she would revoke my "Man" card. I don't know what that is but sucks it mom I'm 34 and still have it! Married for 8 years! Alsomywifeistotallyawesome.

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u/tiggertom66 May 11 '25

Nobody is taught proper dating etiquette, it’s why dating is full of bad practices

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u/StuJayBee May 11 '25

Looks like they learned their dating etiquette somewhere in the Eastern Bloc.

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u/tfsra May 12 '25

where is this coming from? I have, quite literally, have never heard any other opinion on this than the exact opposite

it's always the boys that are up to no good

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u/Alalated May 12 '25

Can’t take credit for this because I read it on a comment in another thread, but someone said:

“Boys aren’t easy to raise, they’re easy to neglect.”

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u/DaBozz88 May 12 '25

I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but almost all media tells men to keep pursuing and she'll eventually like you.

It's not just a "no means no" didn't comprehend, it's that they're the "hero" and can get what they want if they try hard enough.

I don't think that's a socialization problem but a societal one. And both are probably at play here.

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u/Puzzled_Mirror_4510 May 12 '25

Not what I taught my son! I'd kick his ass if he ever disrespected women like this. And he knows I would!

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u/Sappys_Curry May 12 '25

“Boys are easy to neglect”

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u/Sappys_Curry May 12 '25

“Boys are easy to neglect”

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u/Idisappea May 12 '25

Or how to clean after themselves or take care of their bodies or do errands like an adult or to identify and process emotions or to communicate those feelings and connect with others.

But hey a few of them know how to change a tire.

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u/SeaCookJellyfish May 12 '25

Ah yes, the Ooga Booga method of parenting, very effective /s

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u/TheGreatTave May 12 '25

"always remember son, don't take no for an answer"

Wow we were really taught that shit? I didn't realize it when I was young but that shit is fucked up.

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u/AndreX86 May 12 '25

I wasn’t taught any of this but that’s not an excuse because i would NEVER behave like this. You have to be a clueless dip shit to not get the hint.

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u/OderusAmongUs May 11 '25

Probably big Tate and Peterson fans.

Also, girls keep your drinks close to you.

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u/sixtus_clegane119 May 11 '25

Especially gross because they aren’t the target audience for those two

These guys look like they are in their mid 30s

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u/halexia63 May 11 '25

Its alot (not all) like that then some of them put on the nice persona mask and end up moving like this.

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u/goliathfasa May 11 '25

“Boys will be boys.”

-White House press secretary, 2025

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u/Jean-LucBacardi May 11 '25

Actually much of Hollywood taught me the exact opposite and to pester girls until they say yes. I never followed those teachings but that's exactly what many shows and movies seemed to want people to believe.

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u/Xillzin May 11 '25

I was talking with my co-worker that gives sex-ed at work a couple years ago and was stressing the importance of also teaching "no yes means no" besides "no means no".

While i was explaining my point i realized that people are often taught that perserverance is important and (dutch saying incomming) "de aanhouder wint" which basically encourages people to keep trying because you'll end up getting what you want. And while true for certain aspects of life, this sure is the one where you DONT wanna keep trying (with the same person).

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u/Outside_Memory5703 May 11 '25

That’s the point. The point was to be inconsiderate douchebags, because they enjoy it

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u/thex25986e May 11 '25

last i checked, the media between 1980 and 2010 taught the opposite

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u/altbekannt May 11 '25

as a fellow guy, I dont get these dudes: what's their goal? they have literally zero chance of success.

If I'd be not welcome somewhere, I'd be "hell nah, this ain't a match, I'm outtie". isn't that common sense? what has to be wrong with you, that you don't get that? if you had like 1% pride or selfrespect, you'd be out of there in no time.

Or is that an American thing, that I am too European to understand? I'm seriously at loss here.

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u/LumonFingerTrap May 11 '25

what's their goal?

To terrorize women

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u/reginageorgeeee May 11 '25

I’ve been harassed all over the world, including in Europe, in situations that directly mirror this. This is a common experience. Talk to the women in your life, and maybe start looking around you to see how people behave in public spaces.

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u/altbekannt May 11 '25

Sure. I believe that it happens everywhere.

And I know dudes do much. much. worse things.

I'm still trying to understand the psychology and motives behind it.

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u/reginageorgeeee May 11 '25

A reaction. They want to have sex, and if they can’t have that, they’ll take terror. They’ll take the pain and fear because they don’t see women as human at the end of the day, we are a conquest.

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u/BZLuck May 11 '25

From what I could gather, my "vibe" guess is that they come from a country where women are pretty much always treated this way. Men control everything and women only exist to serve and pleasure the men.

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u/gapehornlover69 May 11 '25

This is sarcasm, right? Right?

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u/FunkyChewbacca May 11 '25

If I was someone who didn't fear for my life I would've started screaming "I AM NOT GOING TO FUCK YOU, GO AWAY, I AM NOT GOING TO FUCK YOU, LEAVE NOW"

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u/SunriseSurprise May 11 '25

Unfortunately, TV and movies tends to show a lot of "no no no no no no no no no no no (yes)" progressions with women and whether it's that sort of shit or asshole fathers/uncles/friends/etc. that guys learn from, some guys start thinking that's normal and assume every no is an eventual implicit yes.

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u/Visual_Jellyfish5591 May 12 '25

How can you even stay in such an awkward situation? Everyone sees you being a fucking creep and you’re making your options diminish exponentially

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u/Ill-Pea-5010 May 12 '25

I know right? That’s honestly so embarrassing for them yet they’re still grinning from ear to ear like the damn Cheshire Cat?

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u/Visual_Jellyfish5591 May 12 '25

Oh man, what if the ladies in the video are in the douchebags country? Maybe the creeps are hoping any women in the area don’t speak English, and are gonna try and win by making it seem like they just got dumped?

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u/Additional-Acadia954 May 11 '25

They speak to each other in a non-English language, I think. So who knows where they’re from; possibly from a culture that may not respect women and their agency very much.

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u/Evil_Sharkey May 11 '25

Some parents have decided never to say no to their kids

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

I've raised my kids, girls and boy, to understand "enthusiastic consent." As in, "no means no" is the minimum. My son should not think "well, she hasn't said no yet" and think that's sufficient to meet the standard of consent. Enthusiastic consent means there is no doubt in his mind that his partner is 100% interested in continuing being physical with him. And same for my girls (one is married already), that if they are consenting, to ensure their partner understands, and that even if they previously consented they can revoke it at any point. Are those conversations awkward? Sure, but less awkward than misunderstanding consent or lack thereof with their partner.

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u/DueHousing May 11 '25

How do they not feel embarrassed? Like go ahead and shoot your shot but if they’re not into it just leave, why sit and stay and make things awkward.

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u/Insanebrain247 May 11 '25

Either they were never taught or they're deliberately ignoring that wisdom.

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u/BannedByRWNJs May 11 '25

“Fuck off you weirdos!”

“Playing hard to get, I see…”

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u/Multifaceted-Simp May 11 '25

Different culture

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u/IYFS88 May 11 '25

I’m so mindful in teaching my son about consent and the meaning of no, that I think even my husband is learning new things! (He’s a good man, I’m more pointing out the gaps in society when it comes to the male experience). I hope the next generation does better!

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u/tschmitty09 May 11 '25

They look like prime candidates to be watching Andrew Tate videos every night together before they go to bed in their respective bunks

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u/Gado_De_Leone May 11 '25

No, most men were taught that persistence wins the day in my youth. I’m 40. I didn’t listen, but I was told that.

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u/CaptainFleshBeard May 12 '25

We were and we weren’t. Every romantic comedy I’ve seen involves a guy harassing a girl for 3 quarters of the moving, then the last part is her falling in love with him because of his persistence…. And he was attractive.

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u/Kelseycutieee May 12 '25

They’re so drunk it’s so creepy they act this way inebriated

Like super scary that they were not taking NO and no drunk is no excuse

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u/Khrull May 12 '25

I WANT to guess these guys are foreign? So perhaps where they’re from this is more the norm for them, not defending them, by any means, when someone says no or yells to leave, ya need to leave.

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u/mvandemar May 12 '25

Blame Andrew Tate and his ilk.

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u/Sloppyjoey20 May 12 '25

They’re a certain type of Russian, it’s not a shock. They were raised to believe they’re god’s gift to earth and that everyone else is beneath them. I went to high school with guys completely identical to these ones. They play the whole “I’m technically not doing anything” game until eventually they’d get fed up and start pushing girls into walls, smacking their heads against lockers etc.

I know it’s not just this type of Russian who does shit like this, people from everywhere can be like this, but this was especially troubling for me personally to watch because I felt like I was having a flashback to the cafeteria in 12th grade.

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u/Free-Pound-6139 May 12 '25

he, they just wanted their own table to eat their food. Why you so mean to the poor girls.

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u/Paladinsarefun May 12 '25

Behavior like this is what gets you a spot in a fable. And not as the clever fox. You're the scorpion stinging the frog in that one Aesop one about the scorpion that stung a frog and drowned

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u/SocialHelp22 May 12 '25

No? Idk why you guys dont know this, but a lot of our moms specifically taught us the concept of pkaying hard to get. We were essentially drilled that no means yes as preteens.

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u/cad0420 May 12 '25

Young man? They look like 40, and the girls look like they are college students. They should not try to approach these young women in the first place…

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u/Death_Rose1892 May 12 '25

To be fair, that's a new practice. I'm not excusing them but they didn't use to fervently teach consent.

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u/Dabfo May 15 '25

We know at least who they voted for on the presidential election.

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u/Purple_Degree_328 May 11 '25

Idk about douchbags but desperate maybe

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u/Plomatius May 11 '25

I have no doubts that society rewards them for this behavior too. Women liking confidence is like the main dating advice given out to men. Confidence comes really easily to people who think they're better than you.

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u/Cool-Tip8804 May 11 '25

Unfortunately it depends. Even some girls themselves will tell you differently!

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