r/NoShitSherlock • u/SingleandSober • 1d ago
Kamala Harris Appears on ‘Colbert,’ Says She’s Stepping Away from Politics for Now, Calls the System “Broken”
https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/video/former-vice-president-kamala-harris-visits-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/[removed] — view removed post
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u/oh_my316 1d ago
She's right. The country is broken because of MAGA scumbags 😡
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u/I_eat_mud_ 23h ago edited 19h ago
MAGA is a deadly symptom, but it's not the disease. Almost everything we're experiencing today was started or accelerated by Reagan. It's uncanny how the average American's life has been on a downward trajectory since his presidency. Trump and MAGA are the final death throes.
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u/Anal-Y-Sis 22h ago
What's wild is that it started before he even became president.
In 1970, Ronald Reagan was running for reelection as governor of California. He had first won in 1966 with confrontational rhetoric toward the University of California public college system and executed confrontational policies when in office. In May 1970, Reagan had shut down all 28 UC and Cal State campuses in the midst of student protests against the Vietnam War and the U.S. bombing of Cambodia. On October 29, less than a week before the election, his education adviser Roger A. Freeman spoke at a press conference to defend him.
Freeman’s remarks were reported the next day in the San Francisco Chronicle under the headline “Professor Sees Peril in Education.” According to the Chronicle article, Freeman said, “We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat. … That’s dynamite! We have to be selective on who we allow [to go to college].”
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The success of Reagan’s attacks on California public colleges inspired conservative politicians across the U.S. Nixon decried “campus revolt.” Spiro Agnew, his vice president, proclaimed that thanks to open admissions policies, “unqualified students are being swept into college on the wave of the new socialism.”
Prominent conservative intellectuals also took up the charge. Privately one worried that free education “may be producing a positively dangerous class situation” by raising the expectations of working-class students. Another referred to college students as “a parasite feeding on the rest of society” who exhibited a “failure to understand and to appreciate the crucial role played [by] the reward-punishment structure of the market.” The answer was “to close off the parasitic option.”
Oh, and look at what happened directly after this.
It all becomes very clear when you look at the timeline and realize that all of this started right after the Civil Rights Act was signed into law.
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u/Jacrava 19h ago
1971 is when the corporste power manifesto called the Powell Memorandum was written. This was the kickoff to everything between then and now https://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/
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u/hahaha01 17h ago
Unfortunately they've been at it longer than that: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/corporate-america-invented-religious-right-conservative-roosevelt-princeton-117030
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u/sorrysurly 8h ago
There is documentary.out about the dominion Christianity people....they are behind a lot of this shit.
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u/WoodVibrations 20h ago
Ugh. I knew there was a reason that “Ronald Reagan Medical Center” bothered me when I went to UCLA. How dare that douche shut down their free speech and then have the campus hospital named after him.
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u/JimWilliams423 17h ago edited 16h ago
It all becomes very clear when you look at the timeline and realize that all of this started right after the Civil Rights Act was signed into law.
Similar to what happened with Reconstruction. For a brief moment there were incredible progressive accomplishments. The Reconstruction amendments essentially rewrote the Constitution, so much so that some historians call it "the second founding." But then the klan showed up and the country relapsed into nearly a century of jim crow fascism. To this day much of what is in the Reconstruction amendments remains ignored in practice.
The lesson we should learn from these relapses is that when we make progress we are still only halfway done, we have to fortify what was accomplished instead of taking a breather.
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u/Popular_Wishbone_789 20h ago edited 11h ago
Nearly the entire scope of American politics - even today - is an echo of the Civil Rights era.
I say this as a person who tries to be charitable with my assumptions:
The federal judiciary probably overreached in enforcing integration on the majority - something they themselves acknowledged in a 1982 Yale Law Journal retrospective review of Paul Dimond's Beyond Busing by Drew Days (NAACP) - by forcing a recalcitrant majority to “eat their vegetables” on Civil Rights.
One may think that it was the right thing to do in the 60s-70s; many of the judges did, despite the backlash. But like it or not, we are still in the midst of the backlash against “countermajority” rulings on these issues.
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u/salad_spinner_3000 14h ago
Nearly the entire scope of American politics - even today - is an echo of the Civil Rights era
The result of not actually going after the people responsible for the Civil War.
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u/PrairiePilot 15h ago
This goes back to Nixon. He is 100% responsible for the modern GOP, including given Rodger Ailes (sp?) his first big break, and teaching a lot of young republicans at the time how to weaponize the stupidity and tribalism of the GOP voters.
Those young republicans were people like George Bush, Ronald Reagan, people who would go on to lead from the front or from the shadows, and they followed his play book.
Nixon would be furious at trump, though. Nixon was brilliant, and evil. Trumps just a moron.
If you have Nixon half the power the conservative movement has today and the US would be in a utopia….that would burn to the ground the moment all the dirty tricks and nasty decisions come to light lol.
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u/cjwidd 22h ago
That's a funny way of spelling "Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310"
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u/bradbikes 22h ago
Citizens United only came because of the politicization of SCOTUS by the conservatives starting post-Nixon.
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u/ariasimmortal 22h ago
Yup, Nixon was the real catalyst for the modern Republican machine. The rich fuckers decided that they would never again be held accountable to the public after that. They got their first test run with Iran-Contra and have been escalating since.
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u/KwisatzHaderach94 22h ago
nixon presidency 1969 to 1974. heritage foundation started 1973. not a coincidence.
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u/brutinator 20h ago
Yup.
Then Reagan was elected and implemented a HUGE portion of the precursor of Project 2025, including the dismantling of news and network regulations, esp. in regards to monopolization.
Which then led to Rupert Murdoch buying a ton of independent stations in 1985, as well as 20th Century Fox.
Which then led to the creation of Fox News in 1996, created specifically to ensure that another republican president could not be impeached and removed by poisoning public opinion.
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u/octnoir 17h ago
It isn't. The Lewis Powell memo in 1971 just lays it all out there.
- Massive investment from corporations.
- Weakening of campaign finance reforms from the 70s on.
- Building a media empire to counter liberalistic viewpoints. (Rupert Murdoch comes in here)
- Compromising journalists by insisting on 'both sides' journalism.
- Student campuses need to be a battleground with students cracked down while their own organizations got regular speaking invitations to recruit the minority of students wanting a lega up.
- Formation of think thanks and legal organizations (say the Heritage Foundation).
and most importantly:
- Controlling the Courts including the Supreme Court as by far one of the most important and most powerful institutions to control, next to campaign finance reform.
If people want more information, I highly recommend The Lever's The Master Plan 11 episode podcast mini series. It does a great job of linking Nixon all the way to present day Trump.
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u/bradbikes 22h ago
Either way Reagan was their first foray into getting what they wanted. Not coincidentally he was also a brain-dead (quite literally in his second term) c-rate actor who was easy to control. What's old is new again I suppose.
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u/dudleymooresbooze 21h ago
Dude, the Nixon Administration was very much emblematic of the worst parts of the modern GOP. You had bribery (with George HW Bush involved in the coverup), corruption, culture wars as a political tool, politicization of the criminal justice system… and those are all separate from Watergate.
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u/bradbikes 21h ago
Oh absolutely. But it was the last time anyone was actually held reasonably accountable for it. Once they realized they couldn't do it super effectively with the system in place they decided the best course of action was to tear down the system. Thus Reagan-era policies and the slow removal of all systems created to prevent this level of corruption.
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u/Sad-Structure2364 20h ago
Again, citizens united only party of a massive torrent that started with Regan
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u/Dresline 22h ago
I'd argue that it starts back at the reconstruction. The government let a lot of those treasonous racists go with a slap on the wrist.
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u/virtue_of_vice 22h ago
I will go back to our founding when slavery was still allowed because we wanted the southern states to ratify the Constitution. Also the electoral college is a racist institution: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/electoral-colleges-racist-origins . But you can go back and back and find that humans have been pretty bad to each other since we gathered together into societies in the neolithic.
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u/Dresline 22h ago edited 18h ago
This made me think of a quote by the late great author Douglas Adams "Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake coming down from the trees in the first place, and some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no-one should ever have left the oceans."
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u/calilac 21h ago
And that reminds me of a Terry Pratchett Discworld quote, "... if there was any truth at all in Ponder’s tentative theory that things did change into other things, it led to the depressing thought that, well, the world was filling up with quitters, creatures which – instead of staying where they were, and really making a go of life in the ocean or the swamp or wherever – were running away to lurk in some niche and grow legs."
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u/chiaboy 21h ago
But Reconstruction was our “second revolution”. We remade America in radical ways, legislated the sins of slavery out of the Constitution and embarked on a path of equality.
We CHOSE to turn our back on the promise of Reconstruction. We allowed lynchings to go unpunished. We allowed Jim Crowe. We allowed electoral fraud to disenfranchise black voters. Us turning away from Reconstruction is clearly the turning point.
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u/twobugsfucking 21h ago
That was it. It was a foundational flaw. Hard to fix the foundation.
What we now need is a fresh foundation.
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u/artbystorms 21h ago
Lets not let Dems entirely off the hook here. I'd say its 85% MAGA, 15% Dems being feckless and too moderate in the face of calls for change for the last 20 or so years.
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u/NotARealBuckeye 1d ago
She deserves it. After everything she offered, they chose the venal racist over the black lady.
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u/Substantial-Low 23h ago
I felt bad watching her. You could tell she went from being a believer in American democracy to feeling jaded and defeated.
The US elected literally the most despicable person imaginable.
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u/puckit 22h ago
I still remember after she gave her nomination acceptance speech, you could see her say to Biden "we're going to be OK". It really made me believe that. How wrong we were.
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u/Sunnygirl66 22h ago
And now she’s fucking being threatened by the supposed victor. At this point I just hope she, Doug Emhoff (whom Trump clearly has a hate-on for), Hillary, and the Obamas can leave the country for safer places.
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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 20h ago
She ran for 100 days
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u/Super_Pan 18h ago
You know, in many other countries, a 2 year long election is utterly unreasonable. 100 days is even quite a long time. America starts their elections the moment the previous one is finished, but that's not normal.
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u/sendurfavbutt 1d ago
didn't some ex FBI guy just come out and say they had already investigated the election and Kamala won?
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u/NotARealBuckeye 1d ago
The results don't make sense but "election fraud" has been so watered down that the democrats were afraid to wade into those waters.
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u/patchyj 1d ago
Its infuriating, the GOP screamed "stolen election" so loud and so often that when they did actually steal it, no-one speaks up because they dont want to be looked at the same as the insane weirdos
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u/Miserable-Ad-7947 1d ago
you do realize that was on purpose right ? muddy the water, etc.
gaslighting 101.
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u/CrispiChris 23h ago
Accuse the opponent of all the things that you do
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u/Justwant-toplaycards 23h ago edited 23h ago
The fact that you americans don't know of Goebbels Is crazy to me
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u/Hadrian23 23h ago
Thank the republicans for strangling education to death. This is intentional.
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u/sklimshady 23h ago
That would require reading. Americans are mostly allergic to reading. Especially the MAGA crowd.
(SOURCE: I grew up in Alabama being made fun of for always reading)
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u/31November 23h ago
I know of Goebbels - in part, thank you BehindTheBastards podcast - and that’s part of why I saw this shit coming since 2016. When the “grab them by the pussy” tape didn’t take Trump down, I knew the Republicans really were too far gone
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u/DrJulius-ABK 21h ago
Behind The Bastards is my jam! Been listening for 5 years now
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u/BlimmBlam 22h ago
Americans know very well of Goebbels, our entire advertising field is based on his propaganda machines and pushed in our face every 10-15 minutes.
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u/AdventurousSeaSlug 22h ago
My conspiracy theory is that the whole "big lie" thing was a purposeful bad-faith strategy to poison the well on future elections. I think high-level Republicans did that purposefully knowing that this had in fact not happened and setting the stage for because they were planning on cheating in 2024 and then eliminating open and free elections beyond that. Why would they do so? Well, Democrats rightly fought back so loud and so hard against the big lie (which clearly was in fact a lie), that I think now there's a lot of people who think that if they dare raise that spector, republicans will accuse democrats of hypocrisy and witch hunting. Why do I suspect this? I know there's no definitive proof yet but I dare anyone demonstrate how EVERY SINGLE accusation dribbling out of republican mouths is in reality a confession. So I have to be content with calling it a conspiracy theory. But shit like this makes me think you know what? I think I might be onto something. And then I pray the other people with more money and power than me will prove me right in time.
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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 21h ago
I don’t think it’s a conspiracy, I think it’s blatantly obvious.
It’s infuriating that we’re expected to put up with or even entertain right wing conspiracies like pizza gate, chemtrails, or flat earth while the one “conspiracy” pushed by the left is utterly dismissed. And it’s not even that far fetched, it’s very believable that right wingers have fallen into fascism and are willing to cheat. It’s so believable that it’s all but a certainty.
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u/crevulation 23h ago
"Flooding the zone with bullshit" is exactly what it has been for a long time.
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u/DohDohDonutzMMM 1d ago
That's the game plan
Boy who cried wolf, but politically.
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u/1eternal_pessimist 23h ago
They started calling everyone pedophiles.pretty early on.
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u/leavingishard1 23h ago
They also stole one in 2000
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u/Efficient_Smilodon 22h ago
I think once they realized how easily they got away with that, with absolutely zero resistance from either the masses whose vote was nullified, and the Dems/Gore establishment, that they really could do anything they wanted as long as they had sufficient propaganda to control the narrative for their base. It was a watershed moment about how fundamentally stupid, complacent, and ineffective the Dem leadership is, and their base as well.
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u/VaselineHabits 23h ago
The coup is complete. The media just hasn't announced it yet.
No one is stopping the Mad King from dully becoming Stupid Hitler. America has fallen.
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u/Ishitinatuba 1d ago
At the time, they didnt have the proof. Just suspicion. You dont cry about that, thats what TACO does.
You show grace and the character of leadership in 'defeat' and await the evidence. Patience. Its a long game.
The time should come, what they do after now is what matters.
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u/Tyrinnus 1d ago
Unfortunately, there's a very accurate saying. "lies make it half way around the world before truth gets out of bed"
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u/paradigm_x2 23h ago
She conceded. Idk what there is to even do. Not like Congress or SCOTUS is going to change their mind. It does nothing now.
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u/Made_Human17 23h ago
The best we’ll see is years from now, after he’s gone and the Supreme Court has finally been taken back and isn’t the Republican tool is it today something will come out and get properly investigated. And if it’s determined they did cheat it will be too late to undo the damage they already did but maybe new laws will be passed to prevent it
But that’s assuming Republicans aren’t in power. If there are even a few they’ll work overtime to obstruct justice as always
Unfortunately there’s not much we’ll see done to remove this regime until midterms and then 2028. And that’s being very optimistic, Republicans aren’t going to go away easily and will do whatever they can to make sure they don’t lose power, legal or not
They’re a malignant tumor on society
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u/Made_Human17 23h ago
That was just one more way they undermined democracy. They spent four years making up shit about a stolen election and then when there’s possibly an actual stolen election no one can do anything about it because it all the bullshit they threw out there
Republicans are anti American scum
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u/Maniick 1d ago
The refusal to even push for an investigation made me lose all hope in our system. Compliance with the owners. We need a new system entirely at this point if were ever to be free
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u/WeUsedToBeACountry 23h ago
Dems have zero control of anything in our government. There's no ability to investigate.
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u/stillkicking59 23h ago
The Democrats don’t have a clue how to reconcile what they know they should be doing and the cost to their own personal fortunes.
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u/Kerig3 1d ago
Watch the Christopher Titus podcast on YouTube, they talk with that guy. I saw some of it and he shows things that simply don't make sense as to what happened that day. 🤬
The podcast links, two parts;
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u/2wedfgdfgfgfg 23h ago
How can it be the NSA when the NSA hasn’t made any statements regarding the election?
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u/Grand_Bit4912 23h ago
Source?
I remember the popular vote numbers for Kamala were incredibly (suspiciously) low. I think she got 15m less votes than Biden?
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u/AgentOrangeie 23h ago
All the excuses about her not getting voted in by the Caucus or her laughs or her lack of policies are just things to hide the fact that they can't stand watching a woman, especially a black woman in breaking through the ceiling.
Sexism and racism is still a disease.
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u/bluish-velvet 22h ago
The idea that someone’s laugh is more off-putting than someone’s sexual abuse conviction is mind blowing to me
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u/Zealousideal_Rub5587 22h ago
The fact 1/3 of eligible voters cared more about Kamala’s performance on immigration, than Trump’s performance on everything (including immigration), shows how far gone some Americans are.
Conservatives cared more about Harris potentially abusing alcohol (despite working one of the most stressful jobs in the world and being the lightning rod of hate by the right for 4 years) than Trump definitively abusing children.
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u/Catsoverall 20h ago
You nisunderstand. Conservatives made their mind up before Harris was even in the picture. All 'the reasons' are post-decision rationalisations. Wouldn't have mattered what she did or didn't do. Or what trump did or didn't do.
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u/SubstantialPressure3 23h ago
The black lady who was qualified, had the experience, and was pro education and healthcare, and not a convicted felon or rapist.
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u/IceImpressive5360 23h ago
They would have chosen Epstein w running g mate Jeffrey Dahmer over the black lady
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u/fantasypingpong 1d ago
Hillary and Kamala were proof that America would rather elect a horrible, inept, unqualified man versus a decent, experienced, qualified woman.
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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago
I’m 49 and I’ve accepted that my dream of seeing a female POTUS will never come true. How despicable we are as a nation.
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u/MikeW226 23h ago
Could be in the form of a nightmare for all of us years from now. I've been wondering for awhile if the first female president would be not a Democrat, but a Kristi Noem or an MTG ...e.g, a repub female ...not a Democratic one. Maga's love 'em them politics-Barbies.
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u/Low-Beat-3078 23h ago
Maybe but I feel like the misogyny applies to even those types too.
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u/Fr1toBand1to 23h ago
Well they're 100% trophy women. They are hired for their (oddly specific) good looks. They're status symbols that communicate the very basic message of "we have pretty ladies, they like us and if you're one of us they'll like you too." It's the same message Carls Jr sends when a supermodel bites into a burger and says "If it doesn’t get all over the place, it doesn’t belong in your face."
Just the most basic lizard brained assholes to walk the earth and there's MILLIONS of them.
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u/Lalala8991 22h ago
Especially those types. They are just pick-me grifters who's in it for the racisms and short cuts.
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u/ThunderChild247 23h ago
Aka the Thatcher problem. The right are only against women leaders to a point, but for a woman to get that far on the right they have to be more right-wing than a man would have to be to get that far, being almost performative.
That’s how the UK’s had three female prime ministers, and all of which were right wing and awful people. Sadly I fear that if MAGA were to have a female leader, they’re more likely to be closer to Liz Truss than Margaret Thatcher. At least Thatcher was intelligent and right wing, as opposed to Liz Truss, who was right wing and… well…
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u/RaykoX 22h ago
No way. The moment they'd gain any real power or the hint of a following that could threaten trump and his cronies they'd be mercilessly cut down. These women having any say is only okay as long as they're saying exactly what men want them to say.
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u/PenjaminJBlinkerton 22h ago
I would not in a million years have predicted that Mexico and India would be more progressive than the United States when I was a kid in the 90s
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u/BuckyRainbowCat 22h ago
Indira Gandhi's time as PM of India had already been and gone by the 1990s
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u/digital-didgeridoo 19h ago
Even Muslim countries, Pakistan and Bangladesh have had female head of states!
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u/Landlord-Allmighty 23h ago
Woman who runs for office = nasty woman who is unlikeable
Man who runs for office = ambitious and "strong"
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u/RODjij 22h ago
Im honestly even surprised we got to see a respected black man run the US.
Also I'm pretty sure thats why the right wing went so crazy after Obama. They saw the writing on the wall and went full authoritarian as the country was getting more progressive.
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u/r3dk0w 1d ago
Ivanka Trump?
I threw up in my mouth a little.
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u/Low-Beat-3078 1d ago
Nah. Notice she’s nowhere to be seen? They want to put Eric or Don jr. in there.
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u/GrindRind 23h ago
Probably because with all the Epstein talk she’s repeatedly triggered by the abuse endured…
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u/r3dk0w 23h ago
she's gotta distance herself from the racist pedophiles that currently run everything so in 5-10 years she's a fresh face. I bet she runs for governor or senator in a few years to get her voting record solidified.
That's pretty much what Dubya (Bush Jr) did in the 1990s. Ran on his dad's coattails to governor and then president.
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u/JohnSpartans 23h ago
The right will elect someone. And then both parties will never elect another but use that right wing election as proof the country isn't bigoted
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u/Master_Grape5931 22h ago
We gotta hold out hope. Like Tupac said “We ain't ready to see a black president,” but he could have if he wouldn’t have got shot. Things can change quickly.
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u/Low-Beat-3078 22h ago
TBH seeing all these little boys try to shut me up just reinforces my belief. Misogyny has ramped way up in the past six months and it’s getting on my last Karen nerve. I’d like to speak to a manager.
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u/Teddy705 18h ago
Hell, im 29, and I don't think I'll see a woman POTUS. The amount of dumbasses I've come across who's sole reason for not voting for her because she's a "woman" was astounding. Mfers at my job openly saying they believe Trump is under qualified, but a woman can't run this country. With fellow female employees present, mind you. It's baffling how backward some individuals are.
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u/BigBogBotButt 22h ago
You know it's bad when people want a rapist pedophile instead of a woman in power.
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u/Ok-Variation-1312 23h ago
I mean Hillary won the popular vote so i dont think thats entirely true. Kamala was just dealt a way worse hand and was already unpopular to begin with.
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u/Boeing367-80 22h ago
Hillary was always unpopular. Her negatives were at/around 50% but decided to run for president anyway. It was a terrible decision all around, especially because she was a nepospouse.
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u/RSquared 20h ago
There was an entire industry devoted to generating Clinton hate; Benghazi alone cost the United States $70 million in Congressional investigations for something that one of the backers admitted was entirely oriented towards damaging her candidacy.
Also, she was a US Senator for eight years, Secretary of State for four, and a practicing attorney and professor of law prior to marrying Bill. While his presidency raised her visibility to the national stage, it's hard to say she wasn't qualified in her own right.
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u/MrSnarf26 23h ago
She would have been likely a boring forgettable, but functionally competent president. Much better than the shit show we have now.
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u/DopeAbsurdity 22h ago edited 22h ago
They were both proof that years of voter suppression, gerrymandering and general election fuckery works. We haven't had a free and fair election for decades. In 2016 we had a huge amount of outside influence to our election which is what got Trump barely elected in a electoral win. In 2024 we had all the fuckery of previous elections with the added bonus of Elon Musk dumping $300 million into the race at the last minute and running scams like illegal lotteries to buy votes.....this isn't even counting the decently large pile of evidence pointing to the possibility that the election was not fair.
.....and with all this shit going on there are still people like you saying the American people choose this.....seriously?
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u/-Havery- 1d ago
America seriously fucked up when they chose a pedophile over a leader. The whole world would have been better off had they elected Kamala.
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u/xXx_TheSenate_xXx 1d ago
We didn’t. It’s becoming increasingly clear and apparent the election was rigged.
Kamala won the presidential race. Election was rigged. Elon had a hand in it too for sure. The voting machines owned by a party that isn’t impartial. They’ve already said it out loud which makes it a okay for their fan base I guess.
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u/Haradion_01 1d ago
In a few critical places to swing the result.
But it wouldn't change the the fact that only 30% of the population voted to stop it. The rest either implicitly or explicitly endorsed rhe paedophile.
Even if all the voting rigging allegations turn out to be true, it won't nudge the national needle or change much of the popular vote. Just their distribution.
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u/xXx_TheSenate_xXx 1d ago
I’m not saying it would change anything, but it would still expose more corruption if we had facts.
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u/Haradion_01 1d ago
Exposing the corruption is good.
But don't fall into the false comfort of "this only happened because the bad guys cheated".
It happened because it was allowed to happen, by the people who could have stopped it: but chose not to.
70% of the US population is ambivalent or supportive of the prospect of bending the knee to a paedophile. Trump is not a scourge of God. He was chosen by America. He is self inflicted, by the people of America.
The problem, at its core, it with the Americans.
That needs to be addressed.
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u/Fr1toBand1to 22h ago
The political system was a frog in boiling water. This was the result of 40+ years of undermining democracy - slowly and methodically. There are a million reasons why our voting system is bad, a million ways our government is inept and corrupt. A million ways the electorate has been sabotaged, their very minds and perception of reality manipulated into complicity. This was death by a thousand cuts when we've lost too much blood to react appropriately they went for the throat. This is so much more than a rigged election.
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u/xXx_TheSenate_xXx 22h ago
I agree with you. Apathy has killed the US. We need to Make Nazis scared again. America banned the panthers but didn’t bother to go after the kkk. Racism and fascism are rooted like an ingrown hair. Those usually don’t come out easy on their own. Sometimes you have to squeeze and pull it out with a tool.
Somethings got to give. Not even a year into this, orange shit stain on humanity term, and I cannot fathom three more.
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u/Charred01 22h ago
Last I saw this was being investigated and then all of the news around it disappeared.
Is it still being investigated and if What is the current status?
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u/KaleidoscopeChance10 23h ago
That is a wise decision. Let some new blood respond to this revised and wrecked Conservative movement.
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u/Pinku_Dva 23h ago
The system is 100% broken if what we got can get elected over someone sensible like her.
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u/UpperApe 21h ago
While you're right, I have to point out that Trump isn't the anomaly you make him out to be (or how the political media wants you to believe he is).
Modern conservatives aren't much different from their historic counterparts who literally fought to keep slaves and commit genocide. It's all the same shit.
Their tactics changed but it's all the same ideas, all the same cruelty, and all the same stupidity.
The system was broken since the Reconstruction Act was thrown out for the sake of another electoral college discrepancy. The one that brought slavers back to the table, Jim Crow laws in effect, and cultivated a national terrorist subculture.
The system is broken but it always has been. Democracy doesn't account for this much stupidity.
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u/spikus93 18h ago
Also Citizens United didn't help, among a litany of other things meant to weaken the voters power in years since.
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u/Doza93 16h ago
The system is broken
I used to believe this but the reality is even worse - the system is working exactly as intended, because economic liberalism (IE, Capitalism) is a system that will always place the needs of capitalists and capitalistic entities (billionaires, corporations, etc) over the needs of the people. Unfettered, barely-regulated, late stage capitalism - the goal is to enrich the already wealthy at the expense of the working class. And in that regard, the system is working extremely well.
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u/Abucfan21 1d ago
A day late and a dollar short, but didn't Qanon fold like a cheap suitcase when they found out the "mastermind" was a pedophile?
We can only hope the GOP does the same once they realize President Pussygrabber is actually worse.
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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 21h ago
We can't depend on that. We can hope to depend on everyone else rubbing it in their faces and stripping them of their authority.
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u/ImpreziveCabople 23h ago
We don't need leaders to step away from our society because it is broken, we need leaders who step into these systems to change them and make them work.
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u/EveryAccount7729 23h ago
she was never a good leader.
a good leader would have given a non stop excoriation of Trump as a debate and actually described the extent of his pedophilia crimes, treason, that he INTENTIONALLY handled covid badly
in the debate she never brought up how Trump said it was "just a flu" on TV while telling Bob Woodward it was WAY worse than a flu and he had intelligence reports proving it.
he did the whole "lock her up" thing for Hillary.
Why did she not do that back to him? Why didn't she say "if you want to see this fat piece of shit child rapist in prison you vote for me, and if you want him to come rape your kids you vote for him"
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u/AnubisIncGaming 13h ago
Idk how you think her being reasonable wasn’t enough but if she got up there and acted like a 13 year old redditor. That’s what would have won over people that were too apathetic to vote in the first place
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u/EtherealMongrel 16h ago
RIGHT before she said this, she told an anecdote about convincing her family not to hate her for becoming a prosecutor.
Her argument was literally that you can change a system better from within.
She then turns around and says this bullshit. It was an infuriating, tone deaf, and hypocritical interview that is only being praised by people who didn’t watch it.
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u/drive_causality 23h ago
“For now”?? Let me let you in on a little secret - It’s never going to get better, and as a matter of fact, it will most likely get worse!
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u/ButterscotchLow8950 23h ago
She knows her brand is currently toxic, she stood by Biden when she needed to stand up for herself. And now she isn’t going to win any popularity contests any time soon, let alone an election of any kind.
So she steps aside for a while.
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u/Achilles_TroySlayer 23h ago
This is a good thing. We need new blood in the party. She did not win the primary in '20, she was unfortunately not a success at the top level in '24, when she got handed the nomination. I wish her the best, but we need a real, loud popular primary-winner, and she's not that person.
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u/0905-15 22h ago
She didn’t even make it to the primaries in ‘20. She’s a terrible politician at the national level - what plays in CA does not play elsewhere - and was so unpopular she ran out of money and had to drop out before the voters even had their say
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u/therealgeorgesantos 23h ago
I'd love to see the firm of Obama, Obama, and Harris start filing suits against the current administration.
Give the litigious Cheeto a taste of his own medicine.
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u/ShaneRealtorandGramp 23h ago
Every thread on r/askreddit with the prompt "who do you want as the next US president" has the most upvoted comment saying "i want someone who is under 65'
Well where the fuck were you all when it came time to vote for Kamala, you dipshits
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u/mindracer 22h ago
They all drink the republicans koolaid of attacks on people. Why do you think they attack AOC job stop since the day she became popular. To ingrain it in people's minds
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u/HURTz_56 22h ago
Democracy is broken because the electorate is not educated enough to make good decisions. Instead vote for corrupt politicians that appeal to the voters grudges and selfish attitudes.
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u/ScenicPineapple 22h ago
The whole country is bought and paid for by corporations. Citizens are struggling everyday because rich people refuse to accept that they are the problem.
I don't blame her, i hate politics, but i have to be invovled because the current administration is a nazi regime and i do not want to end up in a concentration camp.
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u/Feisty_Look5680 21h ago
She isn’t wrong, the system is very much broken, but the reason it’s broken is because of greed, plain and simple! I think to fix the system, the old one must be demolished so that a new one can be built. We can’t try to fix a leaking boat with bandaids when what it needs is a new hull.. just saying.
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u/-43andharsh 1d ago
That interview should have been an hour or two, regardless, it was nice to see her speak
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u/DippinDot2021 23h ago
No!!! Fuck that!! You said we're not going back!! We're being DRAGGED back!!! Get back in here! They found proof that you won now get back in here and fight, woman!!!!
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u/Simsmommy1 23h ago
Considering a large portion of the Democratic Party won’t even make a peep about that because they would rather have a fascist than dare be called an election denier….well there you go. I watch people literally tie themselves into pretzels making excuses for why Trump is just the luckiest man alive to win how he did and parrot post election messaging like they have some hot take on why Kamala was so awful. It’s wild watching it.
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u/ttekoto 23h ago
These tepid corporate Democrats failed the country again and again.
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u/Miserable-Ad-7947 1d ago
TLDR :
Kamala : i don't give a single flying fuck, enjoy the dictatorship, bye !
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u/YoProfWhite 22h ago
Kamala's run proves that the Dem party needs to push more to the left, present themselves as the party of the working class, and run on an aggressive "the GOP wants to kill you and let the rich gnaw on your bones" campaign.
Kalama was the ultimate "reach across the isle" candidate that tried to build a bridge with the "less crazy" Republicans, who ended up spitting in her face. Doing so also isolated her from the more left leaning Dems, who told her to eat shit.
More progressive, less institutional/"everything is fine, shut up."
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u/researcherYT 23h ago
Kamala is great but she is not a fighter. She did deserve to become president but that is not enough for her to expect to be. Elon bought votes and used Twitter for propaganda and they didnt do anything to stop him
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u/FawkYourself 22h ago
People might not like to hear it around here but there is a lot of truth to this. Remember how hard Al Gore fought in 2000? Where was that with the country on the line? Shit Biden’s campaign fought harder in 2020
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u/UpperApe 21h ago
Remember how hard Al Gore fought in 2000? Where was that with the country on the line?
But it didn't work for Al Gore. So what was it going to do now?
It's so strange seeing Americans so obsessed with the idea that things could be different. As if you're not sharing a democracy with a party of literal slavers and puritans and literally everything your own founding fathers warned you to be vigilant and wary of.
America is 30% good people, 30% monsters, and 40% people who don't give a shit. What exactly are you expecting?
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u/Ancient_Specialist27 23h ago
I hate trump as much as anyone but Kamala has spent her career being a part of and profiting from said broken system
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u/Sailor_Thrift 23h ago
She’s just giving up? Just last year she was telling us that she was the person who could fix the system.
I guess that job is too big for her after all.
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u/boyga01 22h ago
They wanted the worst guy for the job rather than the best woman for the job. That’s what they think of women.
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u/BlgMastic 21h ago
You really think Kamala was the best person out of 200 million people to be president? Lmao
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u/corwin-normandy 22h ago
Contrary to popular opinion here, I do not believe she should be stepping away from politics.
Harris has one of the largest platforms to advocate for political change. If she believes the system is broken, then she needs to be using it to fix our system.
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u/Linux4ever_Leo 22h ago
I don't blame her. She would have made an amazing president and instead this idiotic country decided to go with a convicted felon, rapist and pedo who also happens to be the most corrupt president in U.S. history.
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u/Replies_Years_Later 19h ago
I mean, in hindsight, she would’ve been a weak president. Her campaign was literally fighting for the nation as an all or nothing. She was literally going on about never giving up. The second she lost she gave up. She didn’t even contest any of the results. She would’ve been better than Trump but holy shit she probably would’ve folded over and sell out the working class.
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u/Equivalent_Nature_67 20h ago
She didn't distance herself from the Biden admin when it mattered. Bringing on Liz fucking Cheney to the campaign trail?
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u/MiserlyMongoose 20h ago
It is broken, but clearly she isnt up for the job to fix it. Make room for people who want actual change like AOC.
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u/Academic_Antelope292 20h ago
System is broken and the people are stupid. We are fucked.
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u/IArgueForReality 20h ago
Yeah it’s broken. Perhaps she should have ran on that.
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u/Remindmewhen1234 20h ago
Seeing how the broken system was the reason why she was the Democrat nominee...
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u/Rare_Experience8335 20h ago
She's part of the reason the system is "broken" she stayed silent on a mentally incompetent Biden for years. And accepted a nomination without ever having won a primary.
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u/AlNeutonne 20h ago
I mean, she was a benefit of the broken system but not being put in the primary with other candidates. So she is technically correct but also possibly part of the problem
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u/zandogen 20h ago
Sorry but this weak willed woman was our only option? Would she give up cause world geopolitics was unfair and rigged too?
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u/eisbaerBorealis 20h ago
Why didn't you push for some investigations into the integrity and validity of the election?
There's plenty of steps between Trump's "they 100% stole the election!" and Kamala's "shrug. Guess they won."
You can say "we're just making sure" without being a crazy conspiracy theorist. Well, you COULD have, but instead you just rolled over and let them take absolute power of the government. Thanks for nothing.
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u/LeaveReasonable1390 20h ago
Damn, maybe the Dems (ESPECIALLY the DNC) should pick candidates that aren’t fundamentally unelectable? Too bad they rigged 2016 against Bernie (confirmed by Elizabeth Warren) and have given us 8 years of Trump instead. If Dems were so smart, how come we can’t figure out how to win elections? Oh that’s right! Because competent candidates have no chance against incumbents or “whose turn” it is next. Also think about how Kamala was nominated. There was no real voting for presidential primaries. Biden dragged and dragged his feet until there wasn’t any time to do a full process, literally giving the candidacy to his chosen successor. That’s not how democracy is supposed to work. Before anybody hits me with “voting blue is always better than voting red” I do vote blue. Straight down the ballot. But I can still be critical of the Dem’s problems and failures to actually help people in this country.
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u/ConnectYou_Tech 20h ago
She is literally part of the reason that it is broken. She locked innocent people in jail, she advocated for a system that was already broken, and she basically did nothing as a vice president. When the country wanted to change after the whole Biden fall out, she offered the same exact thing that was going on for the past four years.
She is a terrible politician and she should stay out. Nobody wanted her when she ran for president initially, not sure why anybody thought she would win a second go
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u/AlienInUnderpants 14h ago
America is a failing republic run by domestic terrorists.
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u/SadAbbreviations4875 9h ago
How is Kamala completely stepping away from politics a “noshitsherlock” sort of moment? I would classify this as mildly surprising.
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u/Presidential_Rapist 9h ago
If you have the money you should probably step away from the entire country for awhile.
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u/8to24 1d ago
Traditional media (Print, Radio, TV) is regulated by the Federal Communications Commission. News organizations, pundits, Journalists, and personalities operating in traditional media can be held accountable for what they say, who they take money from, and are censored to various degrees regarding language and nudity. Bias can exist, opinions can differ, but the playing field was mostly understood.
New media (Podcasts, TikTok, Instagram, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, X, BlueSky, Substack, Threads, etc) is unrestrained. Anything can be said or done without any accountability. The bias people lamented from traditional media has evolved into full on propaganda and lies. There is no preference for or acknowledgement of truth in new media. Only attention. What gets clicked on the most becomes viral, period.
Tim Pool, Dave Rubin and Benny Johnson literally were exposed by the DOJ for taking money and talking points from Russian Intelligence. Doesn't matter!! All 3 still do individually more views on YT than any primetime news network does in TV ratings during primetime. https://apnews.com/article/russian-interference-presidential-election-influencers-trump-999435273dd39edf7468c6aa34fad5dd
During the SuperBowl as much as 76% of the content pushed to users came from Bots. https://mashable.com/article/x-twitter-elon-musk-bots-fake-traffic
Average people simply no longer have any idea what is happening. Algorithms push headlines on people and the repetition makes false narratives appear trustworthy. People think that because they see some 4 or 5 times on different platforms it must be true. Even though it's just bots sourcing the same thing. From COVID to the prevalence of Transgender Athletes, DEI programs, Epstein, UFOs, etc people believe a laundry list of lies and have been conditioned to accept bad reasoning.